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Anyone familiar with a product called Great stuff ? I think its out of a can looks like rock work. Does it look like this-

http://gallery.pethobbyist.com/index.php?photo=320711&user=124408

Can you just use it have it harden like rock work ,is it safe for snakes ?

Thanks

Lia

Great stuff is a foam based product looks nothing like what you linked raw.

However it can be coated in a variety of stuff depending on you taste.

When its cured its safe to all that won't eat it.

Perhaps someone will link its use, hint, hint
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Well, by using it carefully and possibly sculpting it a tiny bit when it's still wet, you might be able to get it to look that way, after letting it cure and then painting it.

The problem with great stuff is that you have to use it in stages - it is a foam, so if you pile up too much "uncured" foam, it will fall over.

I just got done using it to make a form of sorts while rebuilding my kitchen (needed to add concrete under a section and great stuff was the easiest way to make a small 'wall' to pour concrete into. I had to spray some, wait until that hardened, then spray a little more on top to make the 'wall' taller, wait, spray, wait. It cures fully in 24 hours.

But beware - as soon as you begin using a can, you need to use ALL OF IT within that day, probably within 8 hours, because any foam left in the dispenser tube will harden there (it warns of this right on the label). No way to clean out the dispenser tube, either, because it's a nasty chemical. Make sure you wear gloves - any that gets on skin is like super glue.

It might take you a few cans worth for practice to get the type of texture you want, but quite a few people do make their own enclosure furniture and wall decorations out of it. It definitely needs to be painted or otherwise coated before use, to prevent water or humidity from causing it to eventually crumble, though it is pretty sturdy once cured.

Good luck!
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Thank you both .I am going to pick up a bottle try it in a box see to get hang of it than actually use it to make hollow rocks and caves .

I will have to look for paint that looks like rocks .

Lia

Once cured, the foam can be carved/sculptured and even sanded, to get the results/shapes you want. Some people also use the foam insulation boards and brush acetone on it to create different shapes, etc...

Check out this link for some ideas: Fake Rock Wall

Ever see the movie "Miracle on 34th Street?" Just remember where you got the link, info from

Have a good one!
HH
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heres the great stuff and styrofoam wall i made for my tokay enclosure. One thing i would suggest is do most of the sculpting of the wall out of the styrofoam and try to use very little great stuff as its not nearly as easy to sculpt. I used vinyl concrete to coat the whole thing and it took about 4 coats to get to my satisfaction

Great set up thank you very much for the idea . I bought a few cans yesterday tried it and it in a box to get hang of it was a mess but getting hang of it now.
I never thought of styrofoam for base .

Thanks

Thanks I have AOL dial up as my other server went down for few hours thus with AOL dial up going on that link could take 2 or 3 days to download I kid not .
I will go on it tonight as its going to be helpfull .I put it in favorites . Rock work,cliffs is what I want to make. I did see the movie .

Thanks again

> > > "I have AOL dial up..."

You poor thing. You've got my sympathy.

Come on back & show off your work, we'd love to see it.

BTW, my comment on the movie, remembering where you got the info, was about kingsnake.com, not me.

Have fun! I fooled around with a leftover piece of foam board once and it was fun, looked like patooey, but it was fun.

Take care!
HH
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I once saw a post about using great stuff. The person making the post said that after they made what they did and waiting till they thought it was dry, they put it in the tank. When they put a heat lamp on it, it started to expand more and it wound up cracking the cement that they covered it with.

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Posted by: Railrider1920 at Tue Jun 12 08:44:43 2007 [ Report Abuse ] [ Email Message ]

I once saw a post about using great stuff. The person making the post said that after they made what they did and waiting till they thought it was dry, they put it in the tank. When they put a heat lamp on it, it started to expand more and it wound up cracking the cement that they covered it with.

Thanks mine is drying now in yard and can does say not to subject it to heat so only using it in non warm area the rare times I use UTH but many times I dont use heat at all infact turn on AC or fan if temps bit high (ceiling fan usually is enoughas snake "room" in shaded area)

Snakes are in closed in backyard porch area . In Miami its hot/warm most of year . My brother in law has a neat looking non native green arboreal'boa,python" (I dont know difference) he found in his yard and its in his yard enclosed area all yr long screen enclosure and doing great.

Lia

hi...

I use great stuf to build waterfalls, just cover it with a thin layer of tile adesive, and then with polyester resin (the one for fiberglass)mixed with a lot of sand, let it dry outside for several days and wash it...it looks like a wet rock... Im building one rigth now, will post some pics later...

hope this helps

Rick

the one in the picture was my first one, dont lik how it looks, but works great

That looks good. Whats in the tank Frogs,Toads ? I would have thought it would be toxic if water ran around it .

Mine is drying now I aded sand to make Rocks,Cliffs . It took a bit to get hang of it but it is 'great stuff" lol

thanks, it´s my dwarf caimans outside enclosure, its 7 x 7 ft, in the pond there are several smal kois for food and some tree frogs...

if let it dry enogh its non toxic, as said before, will post some more pics from my new work.. I used my aquarium to house a pair of baby gators, this is how it looks before...

post some of yours..

good look

Rick

ups no pic, here is it