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Pics of a few of this seasons stripe creams.
Little beauties…enjoy

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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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Awesome animal for sure! What do I breed to my Creamcicle corn to make those?

I would like to know what other things can be made from the Creamcicle and what it takes to make them...Thanks Andy Federico
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>>Awesome animal for sure! What do I breed to my Creamcicle corn to make those?
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>>I would like to know what other things can be made from the Creamcicle and what it takes to make them...Thanks Andy Federico
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A creamsicle is a great plains rat snake (emoryi) and corn snake (guttata) mix expressing amelanism.
amelanism is the removal of melanin (black)
So remembering that a creamsicle is a mix you would treat it, for breeding purposes, as an amel.
now, to get stripe creamsicles you would obviously have to get stripe into the equation.
let's say your cream is a female and you want stripe creams using her.
If you went simply with a stripe corn as its mate you would get normals het for amelanism and het for stripe.
Because there is emoryi in the mix these would actually be called rootbeers (normal emoryi/guttatus) het for creamsicle het for stripe.
Now if you breed these offspring together you would/should/could get approximately 50% normals (rootbeers) with a possibility of being het amel or het stripe or het amel and stripe.
and approximately 20% would be amel (creams) with a possibility of being het stripe
approximately 20% would be normal stripe (rootbeer stripe) with a possibility of being het amel
and an approximate 10% chance of having amel stripes (cream stripes)
Those numbers are just rounded off and can't be considered as anything close to exact or predictable results.

Now you could shorten the procedure slightly by using an amel stripe to pair with the cream.
The hatchlings would all be amels (creams) het stripe.
breed those together and you could/should get approximately 75% amels (creams) with a possibility of being het stripe and approximately 25% could/should be amel (cream) stripes.

The results would be basically the same using a cream stripe with the only difference being more emoryi in the mix.

and if you do any breedings with your cream and its offspring you must always remember to label all offspring as having emoryi blood in the mix.
some will argue this point but it is easiest to label all amels as creamsicles, all amel stripes as being cream stripes, all normals as rootbeers and all normal stripes as being rootbeer stripes.
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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Thanks for the great info!!!

Andy
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Good job. Keep 'em coming. Always fun to see some of the cool stuff you're hatchin' out. Duffy

Nice, those are some great looking animals.
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Arlon Delorge
Classic Constrictors