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this is cool....
Ancient Reptile Was a Glider

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Thanks,

Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

That is totally amazing...good find!

I also went ahead and read the Dhali Lama's visit to the Australia Zoo - RIP Steve Irwin - Good Man

Show me a good man, and I will show you the door, the last hymn is sung and the devil cries more!

There is no such thing as a "good man".

Those are two contradictory words often bought together during times of tragedy to make one feel better about a perceived lose that they have suffered.

While it is a shame what happened to him, I was glad a "croc" wasn't involved, that would have been an insult to his image. ( in relation to what he stood for, not a public image or opinion )

I do miss his genuine enthusiasm, he will not be replaced.

It is for certain, a bona fide lose to the environmental community.

I do not believe good men exist.

Only one is good - that is God.

Well, I think that's enough of my "narrow minded" opinions.
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Thanks,

Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

No its not narrow-minded at all.

Im well aware that good men do not exist, no one is without fault.

I do believe though that Steve Irwin was a good man in doing and practicing what he preached. Not to many people I know do that. So in my mind he was a good man, not only as a role model but a good man in the animal conservation and education world.

He was all about showing you the real animal and taking away that misconception that apex predators such as crocs & gators, snakes of all species as well as sharks and other such creatures are nothing but ruthless killers, instead he showed us that these animals and apex predators in general are ESSENTIAL to the well being of this planet.

Just the other day I saw something on the Discover Channel showing the effects of removing apex predators from thier area. Wolves were hunted and killed and pretty much removed from one area in the US, which allowed thier prey, deers, to roam free and careless. Now that area is suffering from plant loss, why, because there is no "law of the land" to keep the deer in check. So in turn, the deer go around and eat all the sapling and small trees that should be growing.

The scientist conducting the experiment closed off a section of the forest so that deer could not enter. The visual results were so dramatic, my jaw dropped, even my mother was blown away.

I looked at her and said, look how easy we can destroy, but to try and rebuild would take seven times as long!

So I believe losing Steve Irwin was a serious blow to the world of animal conservation. I believe he was a good man in his own right.

Then again thats only what I believe......

"good men do not exist"

Yes, no one is without fault BUT IMO being with fault does not make you a bad person, just human.

Making mistakes does not make you a bad man.

IMO being a good man does mean you conciously make decisions based on what is right. And no, just because you believe it to be right does not make it right. Most often that "right thing to do" is clear. Like when the cashier gives you change for a $20 and you only gave them a $10.

Yes I have done bad things. None of which I am proud of. I do try to do the right thing. Will I always do the right thing, probably not, but I do try.

Yes there are bad people out there, the ones that knowingly do the wrong things and continue to knowingly do the wrong things. The ones that will rip you off or hurt you in a blink of an eye, lie to you whenever convenient, cheat on you whenever possible. etc. etc.
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Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
21.29 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

You make a good point Dave.

I will agree with you there!

Except that "Good" man part lol.

I am in no implying that he is a "Bad" man either. Most of us fall somewhere in between. That is basically my opinion about people ( man or woman ) in general. My "connotation" of the word "good", is synonymous with the word "righteous" .

I was implying as a "man" itself, yes he did many "good" things for humanity involving a lot of his personal time, but being a "good man" had little to do with it, even A$$holes have their moments ( settle down, I am not calling Steve Irwin names ).

Examine Dave's example about "correct change", I would have given the cashier back the "unearned" money, that is a matter of pride not goodness / righteous on my part. When compared to my connotation of the phrase "being righteous" I do not believe many people fit this bill, I most certainly do not. Nor will I anytime soon.

I am not, by any means, implying that we are all a bunch of deviants to humanity.

True, heart felt "goodness" come's and go's in our journey through live.

By nature most people are decent in my opinion, especially when compared to the degenerates that society has to offer, but we fall short of "true goodness" in a biblical sense. ( and we are expected to )

You are 110 percent dead, "right on the money", in regards, to his contributions to conservation and the environment in "general" ( by this I mean, he was directly involved in a lot different projects that benefited many different aspects of the Animal and Plant kingdoms ) .

It was a "sin" that this "Man" died prematurely. I could not even imagine how much more he would have contributed to such causes.

As Dave mentioned, he removed a lot of hate, fear, and misunderstandings towards many different animal species, especially the Snake Clade, this as on a "global" level no less. Replacing the "fear" with "awe" in the process of his enthusiastic delivery.

So I agree with what you said 99 % plus the 110 % which is equal to 209 percent.

By your definition he was a "good man", then again so am I , under most circumstances.

I am agreeing with you that he is a "good man" by societies standards, that I am certain of.

We agree then...
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Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

Aye....we agree my "good" friend.

I understand that most of us are "good people" in a society sense, especially compared to the douche bags we see on TV and in the news and such.

I by no means have always done the right thing, wether by choice or by the situation, desperate times call for desperate measures.

In any case, when it got down to it and I was faced with the right way to go and the easy way, I would try my best to choose the right thing to do. Even though I didnt always and I might have taken the easy way out my intentions were "true".

So Frank, in a sense we are all good men and we are all good people.