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I posted some pics of this girl a month or two back.. Something really really crazy is going on with her!! When I got her, she had a crazy bunch of crescents, extremely full of yellow/gold and nice black side markings.. part of what I liked about her. But with every shed, more of the color vanishes leaving only her actual body colors.. at this rate, in another 5-6 sheds, she will have very little color or pattern left on her side.

She was pretty active this afternoon, so it the lighting changes alot between the pics, but this one (while not a great photo) is pretty close to her actual color..

and some of the crescents.. They are all fading away, but this area seems to have started first and it is the most obvious here..

and a few more..

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Very wierd! Keep us updated..... It'd be interesting to see a BRB without a side pattern.
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Bob

Yes.. yes it is..

>>Tim is that a WB creation and no not Warner Brothers either you know what I mean
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i' have noticed that alot of the brbs with really giant crescents get alot of melinin diffusion in them.

i have a theory about it:

the crescents are big, but that doesn't mean that their is a greater amount of orange pigment in them. it could be that its just spread out over a wider area. the result is, as the animal grows, the pattern stretcvhes even further, diffusing the pigment even more and allowing hte darker undercolors to come through.

i think this is why you find animals that have crescents only a few scales wide, to have much more vibrant crescents into adulthood.

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Yeah.. I have seen that a bit too.. But I don't think that is what I am getting here. In my experience with those, the black circular markings usually stay pretty much the same.. with the crescents stretching or sometimes even becoming nicer. But with this girl, the crescent and the black are both vanishing and leaving only the main body color.

Anyway.. it is certainly something different with her.. what? I have no idea. You may be right.. it may be hitting the black too. I can see changes in the coloring on individual scales from photos taken over the last 8 months or so..

It will be interesting to see what happens.. whatever it is.

>>i' have noticed that alot of the brbs with really giant crescents get alot of melinin diffusion in them.
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>>i have a theory about it:
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>>the crescents are big, but that doesn't mean that their is a greater amount of orange pigment in them. it could be that its just spread out over a wider area. the result is, as the animal grows, the pattern stretcvhes even further, diffusing the pigment even more and allowing hte darker undercolors to come through.
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>>i think this is why you find animals that have crescents only a few scales wide, to have much more vibrant crescents into adulthood.
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>>my .02
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Tim,
...My only guess is that maybe there is something missing in the snake's diet. Have you been feeding it only on frozen rodents? Perhaps a breakdown in carotenes and xanthines in being frozen for awhile.
Jeff

>>I posted some pics of this girl a month or two back.. Something really really crazy is going on with her!! When I got her, she had a crazy bunch of crescents, extremely full of yellow/gold and nice black side markings.. part of what I liked about her. But with every shed, more of the color vanishes leaving only her actual body colors.. at this rate, in another 5-6 sheds, she will have very little color or pattern left on her side.
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>>She was pretty active this afternoon, so it the lighting changes alot between the pics, but this one (while not a great photo) is pretty close to her actual color..
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Jeff, I feed a lot of FT, but they don't stay in the freezer long. Usually less then a month from the rodent rack to the serving plate.

I just went back and looked - since the beginning of March, She has shed 3 times, and had 11 meals. 6 of them were FT, 5 were Fresh Kill. Any ideas?

>>Tim,
>>...My only guess is that maybe there is something missing in the snake's diet. Have you been feeding it only on frozen rodents? Perhaps a breakdown in carotenes and xanthines in being frozen for awhile.
>>Jeff
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>>>>I posted some pics of this girl a month or two back.. Something really really crazy is going on with her!! When I got her, she had a crazy bunch of crescents, extremely full of yellow/gold and nice black side markings.. part of what I liked about her. But with every shed, more of the color vanishes leaving only her actual body colors.. at this rate, in another 5-6 sheds, she will have very little color or pattern left on her side.
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>>>>She was pretty active this afternoon, so it the lighting changes alot between the pics, but this one (while not a great photo) is pretty close to her actual color..
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Tim,
...Sounds like my idea was not it. Any possibility of internal parasites? Just guessing at what might cause the darkening and loss of red and yellow pigments.
Jeff

>>Jeff, I feed a lot of FT, but they don't stay in the freezer long. Usually less then a month from the rodent rack to the serving plate.
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>>I just went back and looked - since the beginning of March, She has shed 3 times, and had 11 meals. 6 of them were FT, 5 were Fresh Kill. Any ideas?
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>>>>Tim,
>>>>...My only guess is that maybe there is something missing in the snake's diet. Have you been feeding it only on frozen rodents? Perhaps a breakdown in carotenes and xanthines in being frozen for awhile.
>>>>Jeff
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>>>>>>I posted some pics of this girl a month or two back.. Something really really crazy is going on with her!! When I got her, she had a crazy bunch of crescents, extremely full of yellow/gold and nice black side markings.. part of what I liked about her. But with every shed, more of the color vanishes leaving only her actual body colors.. at this rate, in another 5-6 sheds, she will have very little color or pattern left on her side.
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I doubt it. She seems healthy, she is eating, shedding and growing better then any of the other yearlings.. her waste looks good and she seems fine.

She just defecated this past weekend, next time she does though, I will have it looked at - but I honestly don't expect there to be anything there. I will check to be safe though.

>>Tim,
>>...Sounds like my idea was not it. Any possibility of internal parasites? Just guessing at what might cause the darkening and loss of red and yellow pigments.
>>Jeff
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>>>>Jeff, I feed a lot of FT, but they don't stay in the freezer long. Usually less then a month from the rodent rack to the serving plate.
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>>>>I just went back and looked - since the beginning of March, She has shed 3 times, and had 11 meals. 6 of them were FT, 5 were Fresh Kill. Any ideas?
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>>>>>>Tim,
>>>>>>...My only guess is that maybe there is something missing in the snake's diet. Have you been feeding it only on frozen rodents? Perhaps a breakdown in carotenes and xanthines in being frozen for awhile.
>>>>>>Jeff
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>>>>>>>>I posted some pics of this girl a month or two back.. Something really really crazy is going on with her!! When I got her, she had a crazy bunch of crescents, extremely full of yellow/gold and nice black side markings.. part of what I liked about her. But with every shed, more of the color vanishes leaving only her actual body colors.. at this rate, in another 5-6 sheds, she will have very little color or pattern left on her side.
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Tim,
..I was really reaching with my last post there. If she is growing and gaining weight and passing okay looking stools I would not think internal parasites could be the problem. Errr,.... perhaps it is not really a problem but just some sort of natural ontogenetic change. My anerythristic looking male BRB was normal looking until about 18 months of age then slowly lost red pigment but the crescents remained very distinct and the same size and shape as they turned from orange to white.
Jeff

>>I doubt it. She seems healthy, she is eating, shedding and growing better then any of the other yearlings.. her waste looks good and she seems fine.
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>>She just defecated this past weekend, next time she does though, I will have it looked at - but I honestly don't expect there to be anything there. I will check to be safe though.
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>>>>Tim,
>>>>...Sounds like my idea was not it. Any possibility of internal parasites? Just guessing at what might cause the darkening and loss of red and yellow pigments.
>>>>Jeff
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>>>>>>Jeff, I feed a lot of FT, but they don't stay in the freezer long. Usually less then a month from the rodent rack to the serving plate.
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>>>>>>I just went back and looked - since the beginning of March, She has shed 3 times, and had 11 meals. 6 of them were FT, 5 were Fresh Kill. Any ideas?
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>>>>>>>>Tim,
>>>>>>>>...My only guess is that maybe there is something missing in the snake's diet. Have you been feeding it only on frozen rodents? Perhaps a breakdown in carotenes and xanthines in being frozen for awhile.
>>>>>>>>Jeff
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I am sort of thinking the same thing Jeff. I would rather err to side of caution and will more then likely have a stool sample looked at anyway.. it is only a few dollars..

I am thinking it is just something genetic w/ her. The odd thing though, I have 2 siblings of hers, and think Dave has 1 or 2 as well.. and none of those are displaying this.. It is odd to say the least.. I guess time will tell what is going to happen eh?

>>Tim,
>>..I was really reaching with my last post there. If she is growing and gaining weight and passing okay looking stools I would not think internal parasites could be the problem. Errr,.... perhaps it is not really a problem but just some sort of natural ontogenetic change. My anerythristic looking male BRB was normal looking until about 18 months of age then slowly lost red pigment but the crescents remained very distinct and the same size and shape as they turned from orange to white.
>>Jeff
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>>>>I doubt it. She seems healthy, she is eating, shedding and growing better then any of the other yearlings.. her waste looks good and she seems fine.
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>>>>She just defecated this past weekend, next time she does though, I will have it looked at - but I honestly don't expect there to be anything there. I will check to be safe though.
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>>>>>>Tim,
>>>>>>...Sounds like my idea was not it. Any possibility of internal parasites? Just guessing at what might cause the darkening and loss of red and yellow pigments.
>>>>>>Jeff
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>>>>>>>>Jeff, I feed a lot of FT, but they don't stay in the freezer long. Usually less then a month from the rodent rack to the serving plate.
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>>>>>>>>I just went back and looked - since the beginning of March, She has shed 3 times, and had 11 meals. 6 of them were FT, 5 were Fresh Kill. Any ideas?
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>>>>>>>>>>Tim,
>>>>>>>>>>...My only guess is that maybe there is something missing in the snake's diet. Have you been feeding it only on frozen rodents? Perhaps a breakdown in carotenes and xanthines in being frozen for awhile.
>>>>>>>>>>Jeff
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