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within the department... we're going to exploit it.

It's also possible we just gained many new and more powerful allies. Sometimes an action does have not have the desired effect, and that is something that works both ways. This one may swing the pendulum in our favor.

Really, I may call you this weekend about the episode on RR...But as it was the wifes B-Day I have held off so far.

Sunday afternoon maybe?

I have a story for you too.....

Lance

tomorrow is fine... too many calls tonight....one after another all night long.

But I slapped my hand a couple of times and said... wait... wait... wait...

I will catch ya then.

Everyone please be careful what you post. Remember not only herpers see this forum.
Richard

I am fully aware. I was talking to "them" as much as anyone.

Joe. I am not so concened with your posts but with some in general. I will fill you in later but their are certain officials, elected and otherwise who oppose peolple keeping herps. One elected officicial heavily involved in this made the statement to a well respected person in the herp community: "I don't like snakes and you can't convince me why anyone should have one." This came not from a person with animal rights ties but one with hunting and fishing ties. This is why I am concerned with taking the "hunting on private land approach is dangerous." I fear more restrictive legislation.I much favor a road hunting is a "safe family activity" approach. The same about mentioning friendly "field agents" who do not oppose road collecting. I have a deep concern that these agents will be pressured to change their opinion if they are made known. Remember we have a situation where the wishes of the entire house of reps (save one)were ingnored. I think we have not only a problem with HH and Todd K. but also with one more officials in TPWD who are staying on the edges of this. As to those considering hiring attorneys to fight citations. My suggestion is retain the most politically active attorney you can find in the county where the citation is issued.
Richard

Richard,
Understood 100%. These types of battles will be ongoing from here on out I am afraid.

BTW for anyone reading my rift post, I was not alluding to Field agents, but from within the department. No names.

Joe........I made a call to Sinclair's office today basically to see if I needed to purchase a hunting license to simply photograph herps. Sinclair is out of the office at a conference until Friday. A female officer did not believe that a license would be necessary, but you could expect to be stopped and questioned about your activity. I would like to get a written confirmation from the big guy. She did tell me that they are well aware of the consternation this new law has caused in the herping community.

I've always thought this new law was a bit odd, as it targets a specific group of hunters(formerly license buyers I suppose......lol) that are pursuing their activity on public land. Now does this mean that all restrictions as to bag limits and protected species are off the the table if you pursue your pastime on private property? Can TPW have it both ways? You can bet other hunting interests are making a note of this. I see this as a slippery slope that TPW is heading down. They seem to have made this a property rights issue. This property rights issue may be a strategy worth pursuing! Shoot me an e-mail when you have a chance.

this contact form is linked to my old e-mail, so I'll just you my e-mail here joe(dot)forks(at)gmail(dot)com

As to the answer to one of your questions. I wouldn't say those are off the table, but I don't think they ever considered enforcement of section 44 HB 12 one way or the other. For that matter they did not consider those charged with enforcing section 44 HB 12 either.

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Something is amiss. Cookies are enabled, same user name and pass for this forum yet I can not log in over there.

figured it out, thanks!