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I couldn't wait until they crawled out of the egg to take a photo, so here is a teaser shot of 2 ultramel anerythristic motley cornsnakes! They both have patternless ventrals (motley), so I can't wait to see the full dorsal pattern on them!

KJ

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KJUN Snakehaven

So are they ultra snows then....?
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.1 Snow Corn "Hope"
1. Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Chunk" (Goonies)
.1 Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Peaches"

"Have you ever tried simply turning off the T.V., sitting down with your kids... and hitting them?"

>>So are they ultra snows then....?

Nah, an ultra aner would be an altra ghost. These are ultrAMELS - not ultras.

KJ
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KJUN Snakehaven

"so here is a teaser shot of 2 ultramel anerythristic motley cornsnakes!"
Maybe I am misunderstanding (or maybe you meant ultra instead of ultramel) but wouldn't that be an ultra motley snow?
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.1 Snow Corn "Hope"
1. Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Chunk" (Goonies)
.1 Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Peaches"

"Have you ever tried simply turning off the T.V., sitting down with your kids... and hitting them?"

>>"so here is a teaser shot of 2 ultramel anerythristic motley cornsnakes!"
>>Maybe I am misunderstanding (or maybe you meant ultra instead of ultramel) but wouldn't that be an ultra motley snow?

No, these are ultramels - not ultras. Callit it an "ultramel motley snow" if you want, but why woulkd you call it an "ultra" motley snow? Besides, since the ultra gene is the "ultimate" hypo, why not ghost instead of snow? Non of that matters - I'm really not giving them a name.

Again, these are ultrAMELS - not ultras.
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KJUN Snakehaven

but if it is homo for the amel gene AND the anery gene it would be snow.... that is why I say ultra snow instead of ultra ghost because it is homo for amel as well. I am confusing myself though. I think we are saying the exact same thing just calling it something else I was just curious to know exactly what the animal was. It is a very beautifull animal and I am assuming the first of its kind?
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.1 Snow Corn "Hope"
1. Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Chunk" (Goonies)
.1 Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Peaches"

"Have you ever tried simply turning off the T.V., sitting down with your kids... and hitting them?"

>>but if it is homo for the amel gene AND the anery gene it would be snow.... that is why I say ultra snow instead of ultra ghost because it is homo for amel as well. I am confusing myself though. I think we are saying the exact same thing just calling it something else I was just curious to know exactly what the animal was. It is a very beautifull animal and I am assuming the first of its kind?

Nah, it isn't homozygous for amel or ultra or anything else of interest except motley and anerA. It is het for amel and het for ultra HYPO. That's what makes it an ultramel. (remember those 2 traits are allelic.) Calling it a snow or a ghost is only 50% "right" in either case, but these animals are producing SONE black pigments. Doesn't that sound more like a ghost than a snow? It is not completley lacking melanin - just a reduced amount....like a ghost. AND ultra means homozygous for the ultra gene - which this isn't - so an ultra ghost or ultra snow are both misleeading.

I don't know if it is the first...it is certainly ONE of the first, and it is the first one i know about posted online.
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KJUN Snakehaven