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I still am not thrilled about Emory but I am one step closer since my female just laid eggs. I have now caught two red colored specimens. The first one before I was reading about them on the forum “didn’t know anyone was interested in them” so I released it. The second one yesterday on the road just before a storm. I had nothing to put it in so I placed it in a large drink cup from Burger King but the lid popped off and it is in my car right now. I will get pics if I find it. Not real red but noticeable difference from the others. Seems 2 out of 40 are red out here if the odds continue. Does anyone have a picture of a red one from the wild?

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"Life without risk is to merely exist."

What is red, the ground color or the blotches?

On mine the blotches are red toward the center and redish brown on the edges wish I had a pic. I hope I find the snake before my wife does! I might need more counciling than I can afford! Thanks for the Pic. I will find another soon if there is two there is more.
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"Life without risk is to merely exist."

emorys are great, im sure if you didnt live in its range they would probobly be more apealling to you . I personaly love em , different structure then all your ratsnakes but different color than your corn .very unique .dont leave us hangin on the pictures too,excellent find
and i could definately use a pair of red phase GPR's
and also , are there corns in your area that could ovverlap and hybrid? thats something to take into mind as well
eather way , i could really use a nice pair of red GPR's =)
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1.0 Amelanistic greatplains ratsnake
0.1 Greatplains ratsnake
0.1 Amelanistic Cornsnake
1.1 Everglades Ratsnake
0.1 Greenish ratsnake
1.1 Texas Ratsnake
0.1 Black ratsnake
1.1 Speckled kingsnake
1.1 stripeless gartersnake
1.0 onestriped northwestern garter
0.1 Oregon Red sided gartersnake
0.1 graceful chamelion
1.0 Leopard Gecko
1.0 green iguana
and a bangin @ss drumset

I live in Kansas, no corn snakes anywhere close. I also caught one with an abarrant pattern.

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"Life without risk is to merely exist."

We've got some good looking great plains rats in Missouri too, here's one I found.

Kevin

Another picture, same snake.

Kevin

Found this one today. Just left her there.

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"Life without risk is to merely exist."

Ours have different colored eyes.
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"Life without risk is to merely exist."

WOW...that's an emory impersonating a prarie king! Pretty one. I left the one I photographed where it was too, although collecting it was very tempting, it was a gorgeous animal.

Kevin

that is a prarie king.

Shane
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Lifelist

I am glad you set me strait on that. It grows about three feet per year. When in full sun is obligatory to the rules and if found in a window has secondary instar pathium. I will in the future listen before photographing any instar pathium within the aurana. A side note is mundane fiber has a willow complex hence a tendancy to frothify when weeping.
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"Life without risk is to merely exist."

Mmmmm....I thought that it was the fastest growing grass @ up to 3'per day!

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"I got out of the business because it's almost impossible to do business without breaking a law some place, whether you knowingly do it or not."
Tom Crutchfield

The first step in understanding Carotenoids properly is to ask the rabbit. Or go ask Alice when she is ten feet tall.
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"Life without risk is to merely exist."

Or just eat some carrots, but then my eyesight is fading rapidly - is that why you are "Sight hunter"? You're looking for a vision?
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"I got out of the business because it's almost impossible to do business without breaking a law some place, whether you knowingly do it or not."
Tom Crutchfield

I am to old to be muffhunter and my eyesight is also fading. I will be lucky in a few years to be DOR-hunter.
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"Life without risk is to merely exist."

So let's get some bamboo b-4 we can't see.
I still need a prairie king - my friend's husband is dying.
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"I got out of the business because it's almost impossible to do business without breaking a law some place, whether you knowingly do it or not."
Tom Crutchfield

I am ready to make the trip. Just line up some work.
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"Life without risk is to merely exist."

I just renewed my passport - let's go find some tiger rats & Pseustes.
ps happy 4th & find the beaded!
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"I got out of the business because it's almost impossible to do business without breaking a law some place, whether you knowingly do it or not."
Tom Crutchfield

btw - emories make good looking creamsicles.
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"I got out of the business because it's almost impossible to do business without breaking a law some place, whether you knowingly do it or not."
Tom Crutchfield

What does any of this have to do with Bamboo?
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"Life without risk is to merely exist."

i dunno, about as much as emories...
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"I got out of the business because it's almost impossible to do business without breaking a law some place, whether you knowingly do it or not."
Tom Crutchfield

>> and also , are there corns in your area that could ovverlap and hybrid? thats something to take into mind as well
>>eather way , i could really use a nice pair of red GPR's =)

I've talked to MANY people who have collected corns in Kansas. It seems there have been a number of released "pets" in some areas, and "corns" may be breeding in the wild in some localized spots. Check the ventral pattern - and lateral markings - on the "red" ones.

I THINK Kansas law allows a permitted person to sell CB offspring, but WC animals remain the property of KS and can't be sold/traded/given away, etc.

The split pattern is very common in chocolates and het chocolates, so I've seen that MANY times before. I haven't seen it in a wild emoryi, though.

Not to change the subject, but if you do get permitted (or are permitted), and start breeding offspring you can legally sell, contact me. I'd be interested in anything odd (or even just locality stuff if it is the right locality) to go with my current emoryi collection of, well, everything....lol.

KJ
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KJUN Snakehaven

There is no possibility whatsoever that they are from released corn snakes. I am in a VERY remote area. Here are some pics. The two were about 9 miles apart. My drivewaty is 8 miles long! We are on a dead end road, there is no possable way I found two that far apart with common corn influence. I hike in to where I flip rocks.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c190/Sighthunter/FlintHills006.jpg
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"Life without risk is to merely exist."

I have had breeding permits in Kansas but I seldom sell anything. Most of what I breed is for research on thermal regulation, egg durability to extremes and how carotenoids affect color in reptiles. Sometimes I will gift snakes to people with a passion.

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"Life without risk is to merely exist."