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wheres the pic of the 1 y/o mother w/eggs

I mentioned a New Ebgland axanthic in another post so I guess that what you are talking about. But I have had even smaller florida/brooks than this one breed for me this year. I think I had about 4 or 5 yearlings lay and then I had some 2 year olds that were even smaller than the yearings lay as well.

She layed 5 good eggs. She still has the 5th one in her in this pic.

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A quick question - When you breed younger, smaller snakes I know you tend to get smaller clutches.

My question is, will that prevent a snake from reaching a larger size and potentially larger clutches in later years.

For instance will breeding a good sized 1 1/2 yr old snake resulting in a small clutch - maybe 6 eggs, and this breeding stops her from reaching her full size, causing the snake to always throw small clutches?

As opposed to waiting another season letting the snake reach a full size and throwing clutches of 10 better. In 3 years the smaller snake will throw 18 eggs as opposed to the other one throwing 20 or better.

Anyone have any opinions or experience with this? Can the young, smaller snake still reach her full potential? I ask because I have a few snakes that will be questionable this winter and am unsure if I should brumate them or not. I'd hate to let them go early and not have them reach their full potential later.

Thanks

Letting them do what is natural will not effect them later.

Yes they will rach full potential.

If your female ovulates and no male is introduced that is worse.
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"Yeah ya told me, and ya wrote it down too. But how the hell am I supposed to remember!"

concidering 3"eggs thats a big yearling,concrates!did she brumate or feed thru the winter and you got her off pinkies early,must also been an early season clutch.
i think that when creating a morphe or hybrid getting your f-1s soon is key,once again pretty work.C p.s. are small fems prone to binding

she is not really that big. Here is a $100. bill for comparison

(note: a $100. bill is the same size as a $1. bill)

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"Yeah ya told me, and ya wrote it down too. But how the hell am I supposed to remember!"

I've got a MBK that is '06 (though I don't when) that is just over 2' long.
I've got a Cal King that hatched at this size -

on December 27 - and now is 7 months old and just over 20 inches

From everything I understand - Floridana grow faster than Cal Kings.

I've got an '06 Abbott Okeetee that hatched on 8/6 and is about 27 inches long.

That floridana may be a bigger than typical yearling (I don't know), but it seems that when fed and with the right genes, they really sometimes just take off.
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3.6 L. getula californiae - 16 eggs (Cal. King)
1.1 L. getula nigrita (MBK)
1.0 Pantherophis guttatus guttatus (Corn)
0.1 Pituophis catenifer catenifer (Pacific gopher)
3.3 Elgaria multicarinata multicarinata - 14 eggs (Cal. Alligator Lizard)

Wow thanks Where did you find it,i lost that hundred and i have the serial # to prove it,too cool,what are the odds?

How old/how big was the male that bred her?

I just got a couple Miami corns, wild-caught, but I figure they're about a year old. I thought I was going to house them together till the male tried to breed the female! Wouldn't have believed it unless I seen it myself!