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Oviduct had grown onto the egg and attached itself. I palitataed the eggs out and had to cut it off. Never seen this before. She had 2 more eggs in her after this that passed.

a little peroxide and then she passed the other two on her own..

you can see the egg with the red marks still on it:

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wow, something for science,this helps explain this unfortunate phenominon,how is she recovering,maybe an MD can chime in and dianose preventative actions or nutrients or other removal methods,i belive that snakes do have two ova-ducts so you think she will produce in that ovaduct or is that side DONE, maybe able for half a clutch next pregnancy.wondering if anyone has input?

belive that snakes do have two ova-ducts so you think she will produce in that ovaduct or is that side DONE,

Well...that explains how my still eggbound sulfur lav female from last year produced a healthy viable clutch of eggs THIS YEAR. I can still feel the hardened masses in her from last year and she is HUGE.
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was that ova duct skin like a sausage skin kinda like an intestine? I Dunno?

The oviduct actaully grew onto the eggs and attched itself. I don't know how else to describe it except by the pics.
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i had that happen in a pine snake once, but i wasn't so lucky as to be able to palpate it out.

how did she enjoy the peroxide?
daveb

i had that happen in a pine snake once, but i wasn't so lucky as to be able to palpate it out.

Yea, this was stuck to the egg. No amount of pulling could make this detach. I had to surgically carve with a scaple and cut with a scissors to remove it.
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Rainer,

I hope you are retiring her from breeding and not going to put her thru that again.
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I hope you are retiring her from breeding and not going to put her thru that again.

This snake I palpitated is going to breed again this year. I have to palpitate many females every year because they get egg bound. Once the eggs are out they go about their business of eating and cylcling. ot much stress if you know what you are doing. I guess that comes with the territory with breeding large collections of snakes.

If the female ovulates then she is ready to breed. We cannot compare snakes to humans when it comes to breeding. An adult female snake that ovulates and produces infertile eggs is just as stressful (or more so) than if she has volatile eggs. I cannot control what the female does with her body ...heh heh

I just mentioned on a previous post that I successfully bred a sulfur lav that still had the retained eggs in her from last year. Thast was also a new one for me. Seems to me this breeding is a lot less complicated than we think it should be. The real problems arise is when WE think WE breed snakes. WE don't. They do. We just need to be aware of that and their needs.
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Rainer, I think it likely that most snakes have dual oviducts as humans do. Having 1 shut down shouldnt be the end, but having such an incident twice is a way different story in my opinion. You have proved that they can still be bred. And I completely understand if thats what you keep them for then thats what they are GONNA DO(heheheh).

And I completely understand if thats what you keep them for then thats what they are GONNA DO(heheheh)

Whatever the snakes want. I have nothing to do with it.
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Rainier-

This brings me back to my question below. You said you have to palpitate many snakes every year. Are you palpitating the same snakes year after year?

If so couldn’t it be due to having been bred at an early age, which stunted their growth, resulting in being egg bound.

That snake in particular doesn’t look small, but what about the others?

I’m not trying to start a big to do. Just trying to pick up some experience second hand.

Are you palpitating the same snakes year after year?

No they are different ones every year. Always new surprises. This year none of the snakes that were egg bound were this year. Some of the biggest healthiest get egg bound. I think it is more likely with a larger clutch.

MAybe what some of you do not understand is when you have a large collection you will see all sorts of things.
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times over the years.
Good luck with her.
L8r Shannon

what did the snake do when u cut her? bite?