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West Texas Report 6/22/07-6/25/07

Nathan Wells Jun 29, 2007 07:23 PM

6/22/07
My good friend Colby Wright and I just returned home from a quick trip out west. We left Houston around 9:30 or so that morning and headed west through San Antonio into Del Rio. We grabbed a few supplies in Del Rio and continued west into Sanderson. Shortly after 7:00 we checked into the Outback Oasis and spent a little time visiting with Roy, Ruth, Tom Eisele and his wife. With the sun setting we rushed out west of town where we decided to walk roadside cuts for most of the night. Soon after arriving we were joined by my good friend Rob Klockman from Del Rio.

Within an hour, the first snake of the night was observed; a nice trans-pecos ratsnake (Bogertophis s. subocularis) that Rob found crawling on top of the cut.

While the guys were getting a few quick pictures, I started out at the end of the cut making my way up to the top. Around 10:45 and not 5 minutes after the ratsnake was found, I observed a super nice male medium blair’s phase graybanded kingsnake (Lampropeltis alterna) slowly crawling around some boulders. Although finding them on the roads and by shining the cuts is nice nothing beats finding one while walking.

We continued on and were soon stopped by two game wardens while walking the bottom of the cut. The questions and exchange of words between the wardens was brief. They wanted to make their presence known and for us to be aware that they were now enforcing the new law. They were very polite, not giving us any kind of warning and making it an overall nice situation. They said goodbye to us and then talked to Rob who was further down the cut. They were equally as nice to him. With that over with, we continued to comb the cut for most of the night. It wasn’t but an hour later when the warden showed up again. Again he was polite, asking the same questions as before but seemed real determined to catch us doing something that would violate the new law.
He left and again we pressed on. A short time passed and Rob observed another large trans-pecos ratsnake (Bogertophis s. subocularis) crawling at the base of the cut. We took a few pictures and it went on its way. We walked the entire cut a few more times and then decided to head in for the night.

6/23/07
We got up, grabbed a quick bite to eat and headed west of Sanderson into Marathon and then south into Black Gap. There we met up with a friend who was giving us access to an 11,000 acre ranch just north up the road from the Stillwell’s store on FM 2627. Around noon, we walked a bit of the property to see if it was worth exploring that night. It looked good so we killed as much time as we could, driving over to Study Butte for lunch, through Terlingua over to Pepper’s Hill and back over to Black Gap down to La Linda.
Just west of Pepper's Hill, FM 170

Inaccessible bridge to La Linda, Mexico

Ghost Town in La Linda, Mexico

A little later we arrived back at the ranch and walked a few hours before sundown.
The ranch on FM 2627



Nice rocky outcrops



After scouting some of the area out we finally sat back and waited for darkness to fall.


Rob again found the first snake of the night, a small ground snake (Sonora semiannulata). The walk was treacherous. When being careful not to loose your footing while meandering around the rocky outcrops you had to be as equally careful not to place your foot down on an awaiting rattlesnake. Not to mention that and it seemed like every cactus there wanted to kill you too. Although a spectacular place to be with lots of potential, we decided to leave the ranch shortly after midnight. Since we were in Black Gap we decided to make one pass south to La Linda before making our way back to Sanderson. We quickly found 2 adult western diamondbacks (Crotalus atrox) and 2 adult trans-pecos ratsnakes (Bogertophis s. subocularis), all alive on the road. Black gap was busy that night, seeing 4 or 5 other cars in a single pass.
While heading east of Marathon, we came across an adult big bend milksnake (Lampropeltis t. celaenops) which was DOR and definitely a very disappointing find. It was my first celaenops after spending 10 years in that area of the Trans-Pecos region.

Once back in Sanderson, we split up and walked the west cut for a short while, observing one adult western diamondback (Crotalus atrox) crawling along the top of the cut. We headed east of town and spent a bit of time walking more cuts before calling it a night a little before 3:00 am.

6/24/07
We simply relaxed on our last day before heading home. We spent a little time talking to Roy and waited for the day to unwind. A large storm made its way into Sanderson before dark and it forced us to go east for the evening. We packed up the truck and made our way out to Palma Draw and Lozier Canyon.
Sanderson, after a bit of rain

East Sanderson

Being followed by some wicked weather

We walked for a few hours, finding one juvenile trans-pecos ratsnake (Bogertophis s. subocularis) crawling along a cut before 11:00 pm. With the approaching rains we turned our attention towards west of Langtry. We arrived there before the storm and walked cuts for a few more hours. Conditions seemed perfect but see didn’t see anything else for the remainder of the night. We arrived at the hotel before 3:00 in the morning.

6/25/07
We got up early, packed and made the long trek back to Houston. As usual, we had a good time, found some nice animals and enjoyed visiting with our friends who are as passionate about West Texas as we are. A special thanks to Roy and his wife for nicely accommodating us and for always making our stay in Sanderson pleasant. And also to my buddy Colby for taking most of the pictures during this trip.
Nathan Wells

Replies (18)

Doug Beckwith Jun 29, 2007 07:32 PM

Thanks for the nice post and wonderful photos.

DB

MikeRusso Jun 29, 2007 07:47 PM

Hey Nathan..

Great Pic's!! It sounds and looks like you had a really nice trip..

Thanks for posting!

~ Mike Russo

John Fraser Jun 29, 2007 09:07 PM

Nathan,
What a great story & excellant photos! Check out the photos below of what I beleive is the SAME graybanded kingsnake that I found off that 3 mile West of Sanderson cut in August of 2006. I am posting both the actual "In-Situ" or as found photo of when I found him at night & a next am photo I took at my yard in Sanderson, then released him the next evening back to that cut, is that just great or what??? ......JF

Damon Salceies Jun 29, 2007 09:13 PM

That's very cool.
I like catch-and-release hunting...
Very much.

Sighthunter Jun 29, 2007 09:19 PM

John does your phone just ring when you are on line? I am calling you.........Bill Ried Here is the Langtre animal I got from you as a hatchling. Gravid, some years ago. Just thought you would like to see how she turned out. Call tonight if you can 620-615-0039


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"Life without risk is to merely exist."

jon101 Jun 29, 2007 09:21 PM

that is very cool, i wonder how many alternas have been found by other collectors, after being released by you. and really like the INSITU photo!

shannon brown Jun 29, 2007 10:50 PM

That is so cool John,
Shannon

mike17l Jun 30, 2007 12:07 AM
Steve G Jun 29, 2007 09:52 PM

Nathan.........Thanks for the account. It sounds like you had a nice outing. Is it safe to assume you were simply taking pics? Did the wardens you encountered ask to check for any sort of license? Were you walking with a hook and did the wardens ask to search your vehicle? My concerns are can you still herp as long as you are only taking pics. I think everyone is concerned about how the rank and file wardens are handling the enforcement of this new law.

alterna63 Jul 01, 2007 02:36 AM

Hey Florida boy, you don't understand the English or what???? Why do you keep asking if it's ok to take photo's of herps or not in Texas???? Get your as* down here and herp!! Ain't nothin but a thang!!! Once again for our non-English speaking friends......................... IT IS NOT ILLEGAL TO TAKE P H O T O G R A P H S of anyhting in Texas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wayne

CMSMITH Jun 29, 2007 11:18 PM

A couple of weeks ago I saw that sucker at the top edge of the cut and ran up to get him, but it was gone. I think it heard or felt the vibrations from my frantic screams to Bob Haase to get his ass over to help me. At first it didn't look quite right, but after seeing Johns pic I'm sure that is the same snake. It looked even lighter in my spotlight. In my mind the snake that I watched slither away was an absolute screamer, that just kept getting better as the days ware on, and my imagination takes over. It's nice to see a picture of it to bring my mind back to reality.
Nice find

chrish Jun 30, 2007 09:31 PM

That is very cool, to see positive proof of the same snake being found by two separate hunters.

Here are the two pics together, in case you didn't look


You guys should consider sending a note to Herp Review since so little is known about this species movements and longevity in the wild.
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Chris Harrison
San Antonio, Texas

archaeo1 Jul 01, 2007 02:37 PM

Very cool that the snake was recaptured/photo'd. I definitely agree there ought to be a scientific report on it. Sounds like the alterna did not travel much. BTW, great report and wonderful photos. Man, stuck here in Tucson....--Henry W.

bbox Jul 01, 2007 09:23 PM

I could think of a ton of worse places to be stuck (such as Wichita Falls).

CMSMITH Jul 02, 2007 02:59 AM

Make that 3 different hunters. Although I don't have positive proof, I gave descriptions to people that night and the following morning that will match. Also, I'm really confused as to why everyone is so blown away by this. Why would a snake move around a whole lot unless it needed to. Cuts are a population sink, and any snake that "shows up" is unlikely to just leave. It's more likely a snake will be collected or run over than move away from a cut. Especially that cut.

Damon Salceies Jul 02, 2007 02:03 PM

It's simply a meaningful and interesting natural history note. There's very little known about activity patterns and home range size. Typically there are rare opportunities to record individual movements in snakes that aren't tracked with radio telemetry or by the fact that they happened to drop into an established pitfall trap grid. The chances for one person to happen across the same specimen are rare so it's neat that in this scenario (due to the high level of variation in alterna) we were able to identify the individual from a photo. It's easy to conjecture about home range size and activity patterns but this provides solid evidence. It also speaks volumes to what amateur herpetologists are capable of contributing to science... contributions that would never have a chance of being discovered if only due to the fact that the endeavor to discover them would stand no chance for funding.

CMSMITH Jul 02, 2007 04:34 PM

I guess it is cool for all the reasons you mentioned, especially because it is an instance where "herpers" contributed to science. I'm just saying that it's nothing surprising to me. Although it is complete conjecture to say, I have no doubt that if certain cuts were off limits to collectors, one would be able to observe the same snakes year after year.

buzzworm55 Jul 02, 2007 04:52 PM

>> I have no doubt that if certain cuts were off limits to collectors, one would be able to observe the same snakes year after year.

In a sense, with the inception of HB 12, they all are.

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Bill Cope
O'Brien, FL

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