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I am in need of information on vanillas. All I really know is that it is a co-dom trait. I was wondering what type of morphs
have been produced with them? What is the average selling price?
How long has this morph been around? What is the typical look of a vanilla, or how do you tell a vanilla? If you have pics I'd like to see.
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Thanks Justin

"""I am in need of information on vanillas. All I really know is that it is a co-dom trait. I was wondering what type of morphs
have been produced with them? What is the average selling price?
How long has this morph been around? What is the typical look of a vanilla, or how do you tell a vanilla? If you have pics I'd like to see."""

you are correct in that it is a co-dom trait. It was first produced by Gulf Coast Reptiles in 2000. The super was first produced in 2002 by GCR. They made them public in 2004 at the tampa reptile show when they put the first super female as an adult on display. It was then that I knew I had to have that gene in our collection. Since then they have bred the hypo gene into it and produced vanilla ghosts and a super vanilla ghost (both which look awesome), pastel vanilla, black pastel vanilla, spider vanilla and more crosses to come this year. As far as price goes, check the classifieds or give GCR a call. I'd be very scared to buy from anyone that does not have animals from a proven line and until this year you would have had to buy from just 2 or 3 people. The reason I wouldn't buy one of these ch animals you see offered at below market price is that I like to buy piece of mind. I like dealing with breeders that can promise me 100% the genetics of an animal and not that it looks like it is one. I've enclosed an older pic of our striped vanilla male, a pic of our female vanilla (we are one of the very few that have a female vanilla, common supers) and a pic of a super vanilla male with a black ball(both snakes belong to GCR). The female has the typical vanilla look although she is lighter than the pic shows. Hopefully one day soon, I'll spend the money on a good camera and lighting. If you have any other questions, let me know.

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Josh & Krysty Hutto
J&K Reptiles

Various Ball Pythons:::

1.0 striped vanilla
1.0 spider
1.2 Citrus Ghost and hets
1.2 Albino and hets
2.3 het Pied
0.6 50% poss het pied
1.1 Pastel (male has additional gene going on with him)
a bunch of normal female breeders
a bunch of normal female holdbacks and several rescued normal males

0.1 columbian boa, she's a feeding monster, controls my
over production of rats, lol
0.1 brazilian rainbow boa, another rat eating monster
1.1 corns

a BAD dog is MADE not bred, support the American Pit Bull Terrier as the greatest breed of dogs on Earth!!!!!

Do you have any belly shots of the vanillas?
Do they look like a typical pastel or do they have a different stomach?

it's somewhat patternless but not all that remarkable. Next photoshoot I'll take some.
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Josh & Krysty Hutto
J&K Reptiles

Various Ball Pythons:::

1.0 striped vanilla
1.0 spider
1.2 Citrus Ghost and hets
1.2 Albino and hets
2.3 het Pied
0.6 50% poss het pied
1.1 Pastel (male has additional gene going on with him)
a bunch of normal female breeders
a bunch of normal female holdbacks and several rescued normal males

0.1 columbian boa, she's a feeding monster, controls my
over production of rats, lol
0.1 brazilian rainbow boa, another rat eating monster
1.1 corns

a BAD dog is MADE not bred, support the American Pit Bull Terrier as the greatest breed of dogs on Earth!!!!!

Josh, what is the secon pic of?

Dave

an 800g female vanilla. she is actually much lighter in color than that pic shows.
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Josh & Krysty Hutto
J&K Reptiles

Various Ball Pythons:::

1.0 striped vanilla
1.0 spider
1.2 Citrus Ghost and hets
1.2 Albino and hets
2.3 het Pied
0.6 50% poss het pied
1.1 Pastel (male has additional gene going on with him)
a bunch of normal female breeders
a bunch of normal female holdbacks and several rescued normal males

0.1 columbian boa, she's a feeding monster, controls my
over production of rats, lol
0.1 brazilian rainbow boa, another rat eating monster
1.1 corns

a BAD dog is MADE not bred, support the American Pit Bull Terrier as the greatest breed of dogs on Earth!!!!!

Well I have a guy claiming to have a breedable female vanilla ball. We have been discussing a trade, he is wanting my boa collection, and I am wanting more ball python morphs. We have not exchanged pics yet. I wanted to get more information on this morph before I got serious about the trade. What I don't get is how he could have a vanilla female of breedable size, and the only others he says he has to trade are a 1.1 pair of 100% het for orange ghosts, a lemon pastel, a spot nose, and a ringer, and a couple of breeder normals. (I'm not sure of what a spot nose is either) But it seems to me like he would have some bigger morphs if he has something as rare (from what you said) as a female vanilla, especially of breeding size. Give me your thoughts on this please.
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Thanks Justin

It sounds suspicous to me.
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Jesse Jeffcoat
Gopher Hill Herps
http://mysite.verizon.net/resuyda8/