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Went down to the basement yesterday morning to start my ritual Saturday cleaning and found fourteen, healthy little baby rainbows. No slugs or stills. In fact of 4 litters this female has now had she has never had any slugs or stillborns. What a lady! Mom and babies are all doing well today. I'll post the pics tomorrow morning, forgot my camera today. Did a final count yesterday, with these new babies there are now 111 snakes in the basement. About time for some more cages.
Hope everyone is having a good weekend, look for pictures tomorrow!
Milo

Congratulations!!! Along with the pics, post any stats for the clutch that you may have. I'm particularly interested in keeping track of:

Clutch size
Mass of smallest baby
Mass of largest baby
Age of female
Date of post-ov shed (if there was one)
Clutch date

I'll post a summary of all of our results at the end of the 2007 birthing season. Again, nice job!
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Mike Lockwood
www.tooscaley.com

Mike, here is some of the info that I have,
The date was 6/30, but previous years it has always been in August.
14 babies total
I don't have any of the individual weights and unfortunatly don't own a scale.
Also didn't get a POS date but I do know that she had multiple sheds while gravid.
And as for her age, I bought her in spring of 2000 at about three to three and quarter feet so I'd guess that she's about 8 years at the very least.

Hope this helps somewhat and sorry I don't have all the info you are looking for. I have never recorded the shed dates with her, but might start depending how everyone's numbers come out. Would be great to be able to predict a due date like with BCI.

Milo

>>And as for her age, I bought her in spring of 2000 at about three to three and quarter feet so I'd guess that she's about 8 years at the very least.

At three feet-ish in spring of 2000, That'd put her as a 1998 hatchling. That'd make her 9 years old. Could be older if was not fed well.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
21.29 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Thanks for the info Milo. Any numbers are always appreciated. It's nice to have a few more people participating in our little game this year.
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Mike Lockwood
www.tooscaley.com

congrats im lookin forward to them pics babies parents setups the whole nine your the first with the babies your the own who has to post alot of them now lol

So happy to hear you had a successful litter. On the slug thing however, I wouldn't be surprised that your female ate all the slugs, very common in BRB's. I and others have seen females start eating slugs almost immediately after dropping the litter.

Waiting for pix.........
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
21.29 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

I've heard the before but never witnessed it myself. I guess I should say I've never found any slugs with her. This year I didn't think that there were any only because she appeared to be in the final stages of the birthing process when I first checked on her and couldn't seen any in the hide box with her and the babies. But, I didn't open the cage until she moved away from the birthing site so I really don't know for certian and in previous years she has alway been done and away from the site by the time I found the babies.

a pic or two of that salmontine and hypo sonoran if they are looking good too and of course congrats and the father to the BRB's cuz he is a looker for sure
Bob

Thanks Bob,
I haven't been taking too many new pictures of those guys lately. Between work, house work and getting ready for the wedding, which is a month away from Wednesday, I don't have much spare time. Plus my fiancee is making me take dance lessons, which is oh so much fun (sarcasm).

But anyway here are a couple of shots of the hypo sonoran which I thought were interesting. I think I have showed the fist two before but the last is the strange one. These three were all taken in May and June and show him in his light phase, what I thought was his dark phase and a really dark phase.

light phase

dark phase

super dark phase

The last one was taken early one morning and I have never seen him so dark since. The only thing that I think could account for it was that I had moved the rack he was in the day before. Maybe it stressed him out? It's pretty wierd though, looking at that one alone I sure wouldn't call him a hypo.

As for the salmontine, I haven't taken any new pictures of him but he seems to be lightening up some. I would call him more pink than red now. I'll try to get some new shots soon.

Milo

around the side markings and at the bottom of the saddles or dorsal pattern are mind blowing. Do you think he was stressed out or was away from the window to absorb any light and real dark btw?? Either way that change is awesome. Oh yeah 100 snakes you better take some pics for us lol
Bob

He did get moved further from the window but he had never gotten any direct sunlight where he was before or now. Plus all my snakes are in the basement which doesn't get real direct sunlight because of the window wells. I think it's better that way, cages can definately over heat with direct sunlight. So I don't think that lighting was a factor but on the other hand I have a hard time beliving that just moving the rack caused him that much stress. I'd think if that were the case, he would get just as dark every time I cleaned his encloser or took him out for a photo shoot. So basically I really don't know. It was very weird though typically as dark as he gets is about what's shown in the second pic.

Babies! Alright! Can't wait to see the pictures
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Aubrey Ross

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www.SlipstreamSerpents.com

It is tomorrow.. I came looking for pics.. I am sad, there are no pics.

Seriously - Congrats on the great litter!! Be sure to show mom and dad when you post the pics!!

>>Went down to the basement yesterday morning to start my ritual Saturday cleaning and found fourteen, healthy little baby rainbows. No slugs or stills. In fact of 4 litters this female has now had she has never had any slugs or stillborns. What a lady! Mom and babies are all doing well today. I'll post the pics tomorrow morning, forgot my camera today. Did a final count yesterday, with these new babies there are now 111 snakes in the basement. About time for some more cages.
>>Hope everyone is having a good weekend, look for pictures tomorrow!
>>Milo
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photos.xtremecombatsports.com

I took these Saturday morning before moving the babies out of the mothers cage. I'll take more after letting them all settle in for a bit. I posted last night from my Fiancee's parents since I don't have an internet connection at the house. I had intended to bring the camera and post the pictures from there, but forgot it, so sorry for the extra build up and wait.
I am pleased to get a healthy litter from this pair after much wait and anticipation. The waiting sure gets tough once you know it can come any day now. It was really nice of her to wait for a weekend though, when I wasn't rushing off to work.

Babies in the goo.

Here is a quick shot of the now skinny mom (She hasn't eaten since January), after she had moved away from the birthing site. And of the course the father is the male up top. Definately not the best picture of her as I really don't like cage shots on newsprint too well but it gives you an idea what she looks like.

Milo

Huge congrats!!! There are some lookers in there for sure!

>>I took these Saturday morning before moving the babies out of the mothers cage. I'll take more after letting them all settle in for a bit. I posted last night from my Fiancee's parents since I don't have an internet connection at the house. I had intended to bring the camera and post the pictures from there, but forgot it, so sorry for the extra build up and wait.
>>I am pleased to get a healthy litter from this pair after much wait and anticipation. The waiting sure gets tough once you know it can come any day now. It was really nice of her to wait for a weekend though, when I wasn't rushing off to work.
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>>Here is a quick shot of the now skinny mom (She hasn't eaten since January), after she had moved away from the birthing site. And of the course the father is the male up top. Definately not the best picture of her as I really don't like cage shots on newsprint too well but it gives you an idea what she looks like.
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photos.xtremecombatsports.com

And mom looks GREAT for just dropping a litter.

Check out this girl from last year, just seconds after dropping her litter. You can see a serious flat tire look to her. Within minutes internal organs had shifted back to normal locations and lost the skin folds.

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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
21.29 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Now that is skinny! Those look like good size babies, how many of them did she end up with?

That girl is a funny story, Bought her in 1994 as a baby along with several others. Raised her upo and bred her in 2000 - Nothing at all. Bred her agin in 2001, 2002 and 2003. All three times gave me dud litters, nothing but slugs and stillborn babies. I gave up on her and had her for sale at a show. She alomost sold twice including one lady calling after the show. Nobody came up with the cash so I still had her. Left her in the breeding colony and BAM, in 2004 she gave me 31 babies!! WOW, now that was a good litter. Then in 2005 and again in 2006 gave me litters of 26 each year. She went from giving me no babies to giving me more babies than any other female I own.

She might be gravid again this year, if she is, then she definately gets next year off, well deserved break. If not gravid, then she should be good to go this coming year.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
21.29 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Those are big litters! Guess she has really made up for the first few years. Sounds like you were lucky she didn't sell at the show. Imagine how much you'd be kicking yourself if a customer called to let you know about a litter of 31 from an adult female you raised up and then let go.

Yeah that would suck but most likely she would have not been bred again, I was selling her as a non breedable female. Full disclosure on her failure to reproduce....pet only!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
21.29 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

AWESOME!!! Thanks for the picture!
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Aubrey Ross

©
www.SlipstreamSerpents.com

i cant wait for my first slime fest so many pictures so much excitment

Great looking bunch.

I am jealous, as none of my brb's are of breeding age - still a couple of years away!
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Mike

2.4 BRB
1.2 Spotted Python
1.0 Cal. King

it never gets OLD !! :e
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Thanks,

Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

That is doesn't. I feel like a kid on Christmas morning every time.

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Thanks,

Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

>>Went down to the basement yesterday morning to start my ritual Saturday cleaning and found fourteen, healthy little baby rainbows. No slugs or stills. In fact of 4 litters this female has now had she has never had any slugs or stillborns. What a lady! Mom and babies are all doing well today. I'll post the pics tomorrow morning, forgot my camera today. Did a final count yesterday, with these new babies there are now 111 snakes in the basement. About time for some more cages.
>>Hope everyone is having a good weekend, look for pictures tomorrow!
>>Milo