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Hi, what colorful kingsnakes or milksnakes can breed in the tropical climate with hot and humid all year round? Thanks

Some of your Floridas might be OK, but I'm guessing you'd have to watch the humidity in excess because of ventral scale rot concerns. Good luck.

reako45

How about Hondurans or Nelsons? Can they breed in my area ie South East Asia?

i bred hondurans in hot humid s. Florida conditions outside esspecially important is a pool (lg Water bowl) and shade absolutly no sun,another caution is egg care hot eggs cook over mid 80s* F if they spike into the 90s . BTW how warm is warm

I am looking to try and breed l.t.hondurensis in my country ie Malaysia. Maybe start with some tangerines and albinos. But I am not sure about the temperature in Fahrenheits. It is hot and humid with heavy rainfall at the end of the year. It is also located at the Equator.

Did you brumate yours prior to introduction? If so, what was the temperature? I have read somewhere that one need to provide as low as 7 to 10 degree Celcius for about 2 to 3 months to brumate milks and kings prior to breeding. I don't think I could provide that in my country even if I used air-conditioning. The best bet is the fridge, which I doubt is healthy. But I am curious because I still think it can be done.

What do you think?

Thanks

the honduras are Tropical,but i believe they are mountain-ous too, but try without the fridge ,a winter hibernation has been thought to increase fertility and "Spring Fever"

Your point noted. How do people breed them in tropical climate such as Florida?

THEY REALLY DON'T NEED TO BE COOLED THAT MUCH OR THAT LONG. IF YOU ARE REALLY WORRIED THEN PUT THE SNAKES IN A COOLER WITH SOME ICE FOR TWO WEEKS DURING YOUR WINTER SEASON.

The temps should not be as cold as a refrigertor. Place a thermostat in. Anything between 50-60F for two weeks is good. The snakes should be left in a bag during their short stay. Provide a drink once a week.

Some people like myself don't even bother with cooling that much to cycle snakes. I keep the heat on one side of the cage to give them a choice and feed them through the winter. I feed about once every two weeks.

In your situation you do not have the cold winters so I would do the cooler trick.
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THEY REALLY DON'T NEED TO BE COOLED THAT MUCH OR THAT LONG. IF YOU ARE REALLY WORRIED THEN PUT THE SNAKES IN A COOLER WITH SOME ICE FOR TWO WEEKS DURING YOUR WINTER SEASON.

The temps should not be as cold as a refrigertor. Place a thermostat in. Anything between 50-60F for two weeks is good. The snakes should be left in a bag during their short stay. Provide a drink once a week.

Some people like myself don't even bother with cooling that much to cycle snakes. I keep the heat on one side of the cage to give them a choice and feed them through the winter. I feed about once every two weeks.

In your situation you do not have the cold winters so I would do the cooler trick.
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LOL! Ok. I will try them cooler thing out. I think it could be done if I keep changing the ice to prevent them from melting and wet. Lets see how it goes. Thanks

I've had luck breeding, a few kings here in Taiwan, with out cooling, and it gets pretty hot here, The trick is to try get them to mate and lay early in the summer before it gets too hot for the eggs, I've got a desert king going to lay any day now, I just hope I can keep the temps down.
I've never had problems with humidity, Just keep the bedding fresh and dry.

"I've had luck breeding, a few kings here in Taiwan,"

Wow you are in Taiwan. Thats interesting...

Can you buy kinsnakews at pet shops or did you import them?

What is the market prices on kingsnakes back there?

Are they popular with the chinese like they are with the Japanese market?

What types of kingsnake are avaliable in taiwan?
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The trick is to try get them to mate and lay early in the summer before it gets too hot for the eggs

What about air-condioning? Or placing the eggs in a crawl space under the house.

It seems that eggs cannot cook to easily unless you do to.
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I buy all my kings form herp stores, some pet shops also get them in now and then.
They not cheep, cali kings start at about $200 US. The market is improving, but the prices are still quite high, and not many young herpers can afford them.
I've seen all types and many new morphs, but all the real nice snake are too rich for my blood. I'm only in Taiwan for a few more years, so I'm holding back on spending long $ on snakes. I've been lucky and baught a few animals from dealers who don't know what they got, for good prices.
As far as I know I'm one of a hand full of guys doing any breeding here so, It's easy for me to get good prices for kings, corns, and milks.

For $200. a pop for cal kings i would be breeding the heck out of them. Good luck to you and your breeding efforts. Any time you need anything just ask here or you can email me privatly.
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Great to know that they could be bred elsewhere and also without cooling. I was discussing with some friends of mine and we have decided to try breeding them here in the country. But we would like to try with the colorful and bright ones such as hondurans, nelsons or maybe pueblans for starters.

By the way, apart from the desert king, what other lampropeltis sp have you managed to breed?

Thanks.