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17 years and still none

jyohe Jul 04, 2007 11:26 AM

after 17 years I finally got a 2 headed snake.......the ball python people argue whether to cut the eggs or not....corn people usually let the baby pip on it's own..........well......this snake pipped then got it's whole body out.......but drowned with it's double head stuck in the egg..........not good........maybe take another 17 years to get another one........

.........I've had no head,twins,I think siamese twins, no top jaw, no bottom jaw,no eyes and all kinds of fused to itself bodies........but the 2 header would have been cool.....

good luck..........and maybe cut the eggs more often???.......

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Local Corn is in season and picking is non-stop........LOL
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Replies (4)

FunkyRes Jul 04, 2007 02:00 PM

Two headed snakes very rarely live.
Cutting the egg can result in early exit - I'm guessing you will have far more loss due to cutting the egg than you will save two headed snakes that actually make it ...

As far as cutting the egg -

Merker was having a problem with GBKs dying inside the egg. He found that by putting a damp paper towel over the egg about a week before expected pip, he had much much better hatch rates - though he said that proper experimentation still needed to be done before any conclusions could be drawn.

Reproduction is the most important part of natural selection - and eggs in the wild do not get any help as far as cutting them open.

Given how important reproduction is to natural selection, my guess is that a need to help eggs by slitting them is an indication that the incubating part of the husbandry needs improvement, because in the wild, when a clutch hatches it usually has a very high hatch rate within the clutch.

IE in Merkers case, the GBKs that were dying in the egg perhaps needed more humidity on the egg itself, which is why paper towels solved his issue. The mother snake in the wild would have laid the clutch where the proper conditions would have been met. It is our job as keepers and breeders to provide those conditions, and poor hatch rates is an indication to me anyway that something isn't right about the conditions we provide.

Anyway - my understanding is they rarely make it anyway, so don't be too hard on yourself. It would have been cool though!
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cconstrictors Jul 04, 2007 02:47 PM

Yeah, we hatched out a 2 -headed snow corn a couple years back, along with 2 sets of twins in the same clutch. The twins thrived no problems,but the bicephalic corn died within 10 days.It was still cool to have around, even for a short time.

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Arlon Delorge
Classic Constrictors

garweft Jul 04, 2007 04:03 PM

jyohe Jul 04, 2007 05:22 PM

still the same story.one camera didn't work..second new one wouldn't turn on right away so instead of getting different batteries I threw it back in box and didn't pick either one up in like ? what now? 2 years? 3?..........LOL.........I suck I know........sorry.........just that all the time to take pics and get them in computer , only to have them lost when we throw out the computer and get a new one......YES I can load them to disk....but showing a disc isn't when you just popped open a stack of real pics........I know...send info to Wal-Mart and they'll print them out........again....someday......if I get time.....LOL..and a new camera.........?........

sorry.....it looks like a sunglow amel to a candycane cross ......with 2 heads........

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Local Corn is in season and picking is non-stop........LOL
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