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motley?

mack1time Jul 07, 2007 11:15 AM

I already know this answer with boas but just wondering ir its the same in cornsnakes.

Do you only need 1 parent to be motley to have motley babies?
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2.2 Columbian common boas (Zeus, Athena, Aphodite, Hades)
1.1 Corn snakes (Appolo, Boreas)
0.1 King snake tri striped cal morph (Helios)

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jyohe Jul 07, 2007 11:23 AM

NO.....you need 2 motley or 2 hets or one of each...motley is simple recessive.......

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mack1time Jul 07, 2007 12:53 PM

so it is not a codominant mutation like in boas?

Is there anyway to get a supermotley corn then?
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2.2 Columbian common boas (Zeus, Athena, Aphodite, Hades)
1.1 Corn snakes (Appolo, Boreas)
0.1 King snake tri striped cal morph (Helios)

PHLdyPayne Jul 07, 2007 02:12 PM

motley is simple recessive in corn snakes...You can't get a super motley with corns either.

Either your corn snake looks like a motley, carries the gene but looks normal patterned, or is normal visually and genetically.
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PHLdyPayne

cconstrictors Jul 07, 2007 02:18 PM

No,motley,like hypomelanism in boas is a codominant trait,in corns they are both simple recessive. I believe to have a super form of an animal it has to come from a codominant gene,at least all of them that i can think of do. Super salmon,super tiger,etc.
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Arlon Delorge
Classic Constrictors

phiber_optikx Jul 07, 2007 07:33 PM

What makes a "super?" Exposure to radiation...?
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cconstrictors Jul 07, 2007 08:20 PM

No,nothing that drastic LOL.The super form comes about when you take 2 codominant animals,breed them together and get a totally different looking snake altogether. Take the mojave ball python for example, mojave X mojave pairings should give you a small percentage, about 25% of super mojaves, better known as blue eyed leucistics,A totally white snake.
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Arlon Delorge
Classic Constrictors

FunkyRes Jul 07, 2007 08:26 PM

With codom - simply put, a super is a homozygous gene pair - it got one motley gene from mother and one from father, it does not have the normal gene to dilute the motley gene like the heterozygous "non super" motley.

With simple recessive, the motley is recessive - so the heterozygous gene pair just looks normal - no visual indication. There is no super because you do not see anything until you have a homozygous gene pair.
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