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PHRatz Jul 08, 2007 01:28 PM

I went outside the other evening to feed the girls in the pen.
I found Charity & fed her. Then I found Janie & fed her, then Shell E.
I went looking around for Wallinda because it's not like her to not come barreling out of her hiding spot for food.
I looked in the corner where she often is & spotted her, then I saw another reptile head & thought HUH?
Then I looked at that long body lying out on the ground in front of Wallinda's face & freaked for a sec.
I thought to myself ok get hold of yourself look at the tail ahhhhh ok then see the head.. it's not a pit viper ya goof. LOL

It's a small bullsnake:

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PHRatz

Replies (11)

golfdiva Jul 08, 2007 10:57 PM

Cool pic! It was nice of the snake to hang around long enough for you to get your camera! lol!
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PHRatz Jul 09, 2007 09:06 AM

>>Cool pic! It was nice of the snake to hang around long enough for you to get your camera! lol!

It was nice of it.. I really wanted the picture of that thing sitting next to Wallinda but apparently it saw me & got scared before I ran into the house to get the camera.
The next day I tried to feed Wallinda a nightcrawler & she wouldn't eat it. Made me wonder if she thought that was her friend LOL!
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PHRatz

Rouen Jul 09, 2007 05:10 PM

I found a garter snake out by the turtle pen last week, not sure if it ever went inside the pen but I have a feeling the girls would have made a meal out of him if he did.

PHRatz Jul 10, 2007 10:00 AM

>>I found a garter snake out by the turtle pen last week, not sure if it ever went inside the pen but I have a feeling the girls would have made a meal out of him if he did.

Yesterday I found a Texas blind snake on the driveway which unfortunatly DH ran over on his way out for work. He didn't see it until after he'd run it over. It was going away from the pen & I wondered if that one had been in the pen & had been seen by a turtle, would it have been eaten? These little blind snakes that aren't really blind are the size of a nightcrawler, very cute little snakes.
I think the bullsnake was a little too large for them to view as food but now I'm wondering.. have they eaten any snakes out there that I don't know about?
May be??
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PHRatz

chelonian71 Jul 10, 2007 12:36 PM

Rouen wrote:

"I found a garter snake out by the turtle pen last week, not sure if it ever went inside the pen but I have a feeling the girls would have made a meal out of him if he did."

PHRatz wrote:

"Yesterday I found a Texas blind snake on the driveway which unfortunatly DH ran over on his way out for work. He didn't see it until after he'd run it over. It was going away from the pen & I wondered if that one had been in the pen & had been seen by a turtle, would it have been eaten? These little blind snakes that aren't really blind are the size of a nightcrawler, very cute little snakes.

"I think the bullsnake was a little too large for them to view as food but now I'm wondering.. have they eaten any snakes out there that I don't know about?
May be??"

I read an article diet of Chelydra serpentina osceola (called Florida snapping turtle I think; the paper is old, so the taxonomy might not be up to day). They analyzed digestive system content (unfortunately by killing the turtles)....

And the found the turtles eat grass snakes and garter snakes - don't know about boxies eating snakes. Has anyone for sure known one of their turtles to eat a snake?

StephF Jul 10, 2007 01:19 PM

In the text Turtles of the United States and Canada (Ernst, Lovich, and Barbour), the authors state that small snakes are among the vertebrate foods eaten by T. carolina.

chelonian71 Jul 10, 2007 02:04 PM

Didn't know that those authors wrote that. I checked that book out of the library a few months ago, and plant to ask for that book and Ken Dodd's book on box turtles for Christmas this year. Yes, I know I am way ahead of the seasons....

PHRatz Jul 11, 2007 12:06 PM

I could see it happening. I've twice found my box turtles eating carrion- dead bird that fell into their way.
Actually I think if they did it'd be good for them. A lot of calcium in all those many many snake bones.
The down side would be picking up reptilian parasites from the snakes.
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PHRatz

FlatsFeet Jul 12, 2007 09:41 PM

Beautiful snake !!!

SalS Jul 13, 2007 07:13 PM

That's pretty cool!

Since I set up my turtle habitat in my yard, I've seen garter snake, rough earth snake, rough green snakes, GT Toads and Green tree frogs. I think this is impressive.

PHRatz Jul 15, 2007 11:34 AM

>>That's pretty cool!
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>>Since I set up my turtle habitat in my yard, I've seen garter snake, rough earth snake, rough green snakes, GT Toads and Green tree frogs. I think this is impressive.

Sal I wish we could see some tree frogs around here.
I did find some toads in June after we'd had a lot of rain but I'm not sure what type they are. I thought at first spadefoot but the eyes aren't right for those. We took pictures & then let them be.
In the turtle pen itself aside from that beautiful snake I've found widow spiders and lots of wolf spiders and GOPHERS!
Grrrr I've never been able to get rid of the gophers so I finally gave up trying. lol
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PHRatz

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