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first we will have a couple of stripe cream hatchlings

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followed by a little ultramel

a creamsicle

and a nice little cinnamon

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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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How about a few ghosts
I guess the flash caused them to show a little dark but they do have some nice color and contrast.

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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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a hypo snow

another cinnamon shot

and a couple of shots of a cool little rootbeer

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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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a creamsicle

an amel

a simple little snow

one of the motley creams (hasn't shed yet)

and one of the little okeetees (hasn't shed yet)

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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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Awesome pictures....I can't wait to get one...i mean 2!
-Jimmy K

>>and one of the little okeetees (hasn't shed yet)

Thanks for the pictures. They are really nice looking. I like the ghosts too.
Rob
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"I reject your reality and substitute my own" Adam Savage
0.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boa-Ziggy
1.0 Creamscicle motley corn--Cozmo
0.1 Creamscicle corn--Wanda
0.0.1 Normal corn
0.1 Black Pine - Spazz
1.0 Eastern King-Ozy
1.0 Bearded Dragon - Gomer

whats the point in hypo snow? how can you even tell?
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jake

my addiction:
0.2 normal ball pythons (lazlo and izzy)
0.1 amelenistic corn snake (maizy)
0.1 blizzard corn (blizz)
1.0 albino cal king (zeus)
0.0.1 wc garter (zim)
hybrid breeders association
hybrid haven

>>whats the point in hypo snow? how can you even tell?
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>>jake
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Not really sure what you mean by "what's the point?"
That's the genitics.
It's simply what they are.
Two ghosts both het amel bred together produced ghosts and snows with these snows being homo anery, amel and hypo
thus hypo snow.
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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I think you mis-understood what he was saying. I am not sure he realised that the hypo snow is for lack of a better word a "biproduct" and that you didn't neccessarily breed to get a hypo snow. So his question would be better put..."Why breed for a hypo snow if you can't tell the difference?" Which I agree... IS there a difference in appearance between a snow and a hypo snow?
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-David Harrison-
.1 Snow Corn "Hope"
1. Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Chunk" (Goonies)
.1 Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Peaches"
.1 Ball Python "Rocky Ballboa" (Didn't name her!)

"Have you ever tried simply turning off the T.V., sitting down with your kids... and hitting them?"

what i meant by "whats the point" was: is there any difference other than having more traits in the genes?
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jake

my addiction:
0.2 normal ball pythons (lazlo and izzy)
0.1 amelenistic corn snake (maizy)
0.1 blizzard corn (blizz)
1.0 albino cal king (zeus)
0.0.1 wc garter (zim)
hybrid breeders association
hybrid haven

>>what i meant by "whats the point" was: is there any difference other than having more traits in the genes?
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>>jake
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well, in this case it was just what happened but if you look at Steve's shots you will see that there can be a diffeerence and they can make for some pretty nice (coral) snows
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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Amel plus Anery A plus Hypo. Also known as a coral snow. With the hypo gene added to the mix, snows tend to have more pinkish tones. Everything from light pink to coral colors. Here's my 06 female. Steve

>>whats the point in hypo snow? how can you even tell?
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SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS

Gorgeous corns Jimmy. Can't wait to see how that little hypo snow developes. Also love that neat head color/pattern on those rootbeers. You have some outstanding looking hatchlings.

Steve
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SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS

>>Gorgeous corns Jimmy. Can't wait to see how that little hypo snow developes. Also love that neat head color/pattern on those rootbeers. You have some outstanding looking hatchlings.
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>>Steve
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>>SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS

Thanks Steve,
Yeah, that little rootbeer is pretty cool.
I like it.
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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how many snakes do you have now? Including the newly hatched ones? I can't add that high.
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phflame
kingsnake.com host

>>how many snakes do you have now? Including the newly hatched ones? I can't add that high.
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My guess with all the babies would be somewhere around 140
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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Jimmy, which of your adult breeders produced the Ghost you have pictured? Jacob & Lacy? They should turn out to be some knockout babies.

Steve
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SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS

>>Jimmy, which of your adult breeders produced the Ghost you have pictured? Jacob & Lacy? They should turn out to be some knockout babies.
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>>Steve
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>>SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS

Yep Jacob and Lacy!
The picture of Jacob is pretty much dead on.
The picture of Lacy is a little older she is lighter now with more yellow showing on her neck. I will have to get more updated pics.

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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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That second cream stripe is amazing! Looks a lot like that screamer you had last year. Was it a hold back or did you sell it? Updated pics?
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3.1 Corn (Anery Stripe-Ripple '06/Amber-Jack Straw '06/Snow-Casey Jones '06/Amel Motley-Cosmo '03)
0.1 Baird's Ratsnake (Sugaree '04)
1.0 White Oaks Grey Rat (Tennesse Jed '04)
0.1 IJ Carpet Python (Cassidy '04)
1.0 Western Hognose (Samson '05)
1.1 Shepherd mix (Dylan 8yrs, Porter 3yrs)

>>That second cream stripe is amazing! Looks a lot like that screamer you had last year. Was it a hold back or did you sell it? Updated pics?
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I still have her she is a beauty.
e-mail me for more indepth questions or answers
That picture was taken yesterday. (Sunday)
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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Great looking babies!
How old are they? Just a week or two? I ask because I have what I think are creamsicles (You can see pictures on a message I posted below about butter x creamsicle)
My babies are definitly not as bright as your creamsicle so I'm wondering how mine will turn out,they are a lot more pink...
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Suzanne
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0.1 Creamsicle Corn - Scout
0.1 Caramel Corn - Jade
1.0 Amber Corn - Tucker
1.0 Caramel Corn - Zeke
1.0 Butter Corn - Hunter
0.1 Amber corn - Abby
1.0 Motley Anery - Bear

>>Great looking babies!
>>How old are they? Just a week or two? I ask because I have what I think are creamsicles (You can see pictures on a message I posted below about butter x creamsicle)
>>My babies are definitly not as bright as your creamsicle so I'm wondering how mine will turn out,they are a lot more pink...
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>>Suzanne
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everything pictured hatched between late May to yesterday.
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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>>Great looking babies!
>>How old are they? Just a week or two? I ask because I have what I think are creamsicles (You can see pictures on a message I posted below about butter x creamsicle)
>>My babies are definitly not as bright as your creamsicle so I'm wondering how mine will turn out,they are a lot more pink...
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>>Suzanne
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my flash brightens them up a little and some of my creams lean more towards the dark orange to red side.
There are a lot of times when amels (creams included considering they are amel emoryi/cormn) will not start showing their colors until the first or second shed.
Then when you combine butter with cream they will probably lean more towards the yellows and not be quite as "bright" early on.
It is kind of hard to tell from the pics but I was wondering if there was a posibility of snow.
If both parents happened to be het anery there could be snows in the clutch.
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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Yes, we had 21 eggs and 4 came out very pale, so we are pretty sure they are snows.
The rest are all the same.
It's too bad babies aren't born with their final colors, it would make life much easier!
But then again, I guess part of the fun is watching them change.
Thanks for your answers.
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Suzanne
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0.1 Creamsicle Corn - Scout
0.1 Caramel Corn - Jade
1.0 Amber Corn - Tucker
1.0 Caramel Corn - Zeke
1.0 Butter Corn - Hunter
0.1 Amber corn - Abby
1.0 Motley Anery - Bear