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Thought I'd try to learn how to post pics
This is an 06 male we produced.

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Jesse Jeffcoat
Gopher Hill Herps
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It looks like a cross to me???

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Not up on king snakes (my dads projects), but the parents look very diffrent. Deffinately diffrent locals if thats what you guys are talking about??
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Jesse Jeffcoat
Gopher Hill Herps
http://mysite.verizon.net/resuyda8/

no, it looks like a gray band crossed with somthing else.. maybe thayeri??

Can you post pics of the parents?

~ mike

I also believe it's a cross(not knocking it, just pointing it out)...the band count is too high. It's still a good-looking snake Please post pics of the parents...

Max
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Snakes to the Max

I'll take pics of the parents this week and post em this weekend. Thanks for the input. You guys maybe right. My dads had this breeding pair for about 12yrs and the maybe two diffrent types of Kings. I don't do kings (mostly balls), and the old man rarely does his homework on things like this lol.

I'm almost certain it is part mex mex, possibly part thayori. --Henry W

Here a second pic showing the full snake.

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Jesse Jeffcoat
Gopher Hill Herps
http://mysite.verizon.net/resuyda8/

You guys were right its a gray band crossed with a Theyri. So does that make this a hybrid?? Like I said, I know nothing about kings. Thanks
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Jesse Jeffcoat
Gopher Hill Herps
http://mysite.verizon.net/resuyda8/

Yes, if you consider mexicana and alterna different species (the currently accepted relationship), then that is a hybrid.
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Chris Harrison
San Antonio, Texas

Looks like some thayeri to me as well.

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Todd Hughes

Here are the other pics. Mom is the gray band and dad is Thayrei (? spelling) and female offspring were keeping. Were these snakes every considered same specie?

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Jesse Jeffcoat
Gopher Hill Herps
http://mysite.verizon.net/resuyda8/

Yes at one time it went:
Lampropeltis mexicana alterna
L. m. mexicana
L. m. thayeri
L. m. greeri

Now it goes:
L. alterna
and the other three are lumped together as L. mexicana.

Most hobbyists still separate the three mexicanas because they have distinct color and pattern differences.

Thanks for the info.
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Jesse Jeffcoat
Gopher Hill Herps
http://mysite.verizon.net/resuyda8/