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I am relatively new to the whole boa scene having mainly dealt with pythons over the last 14 years or so. My question is about Hypos. Is hypo and salmon the same. I am led to believe they are the same through my research but then I am a little confused if they are since I have read several articles or entries in vairous places regarding supersalmons. If hypos and salmons are the same then they are Dominate, not co-dominate correct. And if this is true then there would not be a possible thing as a super salmon. You could in theory have a homozygous hypo or salmon but you would not really know for sure unless you bred it to a normal. Someone please correct me if I am wrong in my logic...lol. Todd

You are correct, salmon and hypo are the same and are a dominant morph. Folks have been using "supersalmon" to describe a homozygous salmon.
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Dave Colling

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LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
24.36 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

All salmons are hypos but not all hypos are salmons. Salmon is a specific line of hypo. There are other lines of hypo such as "lipstick", "orange tail", and a few others. Its not very easy to get a certain line of hypos established and accepted with the boas because its often hard to distinquish what line a hypo may come from but there are a few that are well recognized.

Here are a couple examples.

This is a pastel salmon (pastel being an inheritable line breed trait--not a morph--that cleans up the black irregularity to give the animal a cleaner look)

Heres are some offspring from the above male.


Here are two examples of hypos that are not from the salmon line.



Here are some of the resulting offspring from the above two lines of hypo (not salmon) breed together. The yield was a 25% chance of being dominant. You can see the first baby obviously inherited the mothers tail color. I think the second will likely turn out to be dominant because of the drastic change in color and saddle pattern.

Hope this helps.
Brendan Saffron

the mutation.

Rich Ihle proved out the mutation and thus named it "salmon". Although, people do tend to only label them as such if they derived from Ihle stock. But technically it refers to the mutation itself.

See this thread for more info:

http://www.reptileinsider.com/upload/showthread.php?t=6595
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A salmon has one normal allele and one salmon(hypo) allele. Therefore if bred to another normal, there would be half normals, and half salmons.
A supersalmon looks almost identical to a salmon, but it has TWO salmon alleles (No normal allele at that locus). Therefore if a supersalmon is bred to a normal boa, all offspring must be salmons. A supersalmon inherits a salmon allele from its mother and another salmon allele from its father.

(And salmons are just a selectively bred line of hypos.)

~kasey