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General Advice

distortion Jul 13, 2007 07:09 PM

I was very recently given a lizard that I was told was a "african spiny tailed lizard." After a little research, I've come to realize that he's actually a Mali Uromastyx, and have also realized that the living conditions that he was being kept in, etc. were not up to par. Since then (a couple days), I've tried to read what I could find from reputable sources on my new lizard and their needs.

He's currently housed in a 30x12x13 tank (with a screen top), unknown bedding that appears to be some type of sand and something else, and inadequate lighting (no UVB/UVA bulb), heating, and hides.

The general consensus that I got was that you shouldn't have anything smaller than a 40-50 gal. aquarium (or equivalent) for the smallest Uros. (My Uro is just over 10 inches.)

This is what I plan to do to improve the lizard and his conditions and would like any input and improvements that someone more knowledgeable than myself might have:

1. Get a fixture or combo hood and probably an ESU 7% Desert bulb for it.

2. Get some type of basking light(s) that will provide the appropriate temperatures on both sides of the cages. I believe it should be about 90 on the cool side and about 120 on the hot side during the "day" hours?

3. Get a couple hides and rocks (not electric heat rocks) for both sides.

4. Get some of the cheap play sand for children from a store and sift through it with a screen or something similar to get rid of any of the larger grains of sand.

5. Get at least a 40 gal. reptarium for him as opposed to the 20ish gal. one that he's in now.

I haven't gotten to read too much about supplements, etc. but I will definitely try to find as much information on that as possible get what's needed then as well.

Here are my questions:

I've noticed that there are some nice looking combo hoods on some herp supply sites that will house about 2 or more basking/heat bulbs in addition to the long-style fluorescent bulbs. Would anyone recommend one of these over getting individual fixtures and setting them up accordingly?

I'm not quite sure how deep I should make the sand in the tank when I get it. I'm aware that these lizards like to burrow a lot and, as such, the sand will probably need a sufficient depth. Would a few inches be safe/sufficient?

Also, my lizard doesn't seem to have any spikes on his tail. He has them on his legs but not on his tail. I'm assuming that he likely has tail rot (no, there's no water in the cage). I know that I should take him to a vet (and I will), but I'd like to post a couple pictures to see if anyone has any input on it before I get the chance to.

P.S. I also plan to get one of the laser thermometers to accurately measure the temperature of different parts of the cage. There's currently one of the strip ones that sit on the side of tanks (that I've read to be pretty inaccurate), and it reads 90 on the "hot" side of the tank.

Replies (3)

BigKooz Jul 14, 2007 06:16 AM

I am a noobian- but I have seen tails with no spikes(with scutes/but no spikes)
I prefer Mercury vapor bulbs(T-rex,Mega ray,and now Sunforce from Big apple herp)
You can always build a cage to what ever dimensions you wish 4x2:5x2;6x2,etc but most would say 4'x18" or 4'x24"minimum for yours.

el_toro Jul 14, 2007 10:16 AM

Can't help you with the tail. I've seen pictures of similar looking tails, but never dealt with any such thing.

I'd recommend a slightly cooler cool side - more like 85F.

I would not recommend the combo hoods. You have no flexibility in where you place your lighting. Plus mostly they're crappy quality. There's been some indication that the quality of the fixture can affect the output of a UVB bulb. If you want more info on that, message me and I can point you in the right direction. Fixtures with reflectors can change the results as well.

If you choose to go with a fluorescent UVB bulb keep in mind that the bulb face needs to be within about 12" of the basking lizard (without screen or plastic between). For fluorescents, I like the Reptisun 10.0, but you can look up more info for yourself here: UV Guide

Some of the mercury vapor bulbs out there are truly excellent - some are crap or even dangerous. I wouldn't use one without first purchasing a UVB meter like the Solarmeter 6.2.

A couple inches of sand is fine. They cannot actually burrow in sand - they just kick it around. If he has several low hides, he'll amuse himself by kicking the sand in and out of it.

A 40-50 breeder is barely adequate. I'd go with larger if you can. It's MUCH easier to keep an appropriate temp gradient in a longer, wider cage.

Good luck! Uros are great pets when they get the care they need!
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Torey
Eugene, Oregon, USA
1.1 Saharan Uros (Joe and Arthur)
3.0 Mali Uros (Spike, Turtle, and Tank)
1.1 Ornate Uros (Scuttlebutt and Shazzbot)
0.1 Collared Lizard (Rorschach)
2.1 Green Anoles (Bowser, Sprocket, Leeloo)
1.1 Chubby Housecats (Roscolux and Jenny)

distortion Jul 15, 2007 02:27 AM

Thanks for the help, guys. I've gotten about everything I believe I need now.

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