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Posted this on the what kind forum and got mixed results. Received from a friend of a friend as an "african rat" which it undoubtedly is not. It has been suggested that it is a "blood corn" or possibly a glades rat or glades/yellow. Any help is appreciated. Male/4-4.5 ft. Thanks. Andy

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Andy Maddox
Houston Herp Key
The Reptizone

Who are you who can say it's ok to live through me? Alice In Chains

It doesn't look like one to me...the head isn't the right shape. Sorry, but I don't have a clue what it IS...

It's a type of rat snake. It's not a corn snake as I've stated many times before. Guess what oldherper, steen knows just by the head that it's not a corn snake. If I recall you said that there wasn't enough difference to tell. HMMMMMMM I guess you're wrong again or you must be the only one along with your snakeguy buddy that can't tell the difference between a rat snake head and a corn snake head. You can also tell it's a rat snake buy the way the scales are seperated and the skin underneath is exposed. NO NO I insisit that you have a nice day

Some funny head shaped corns for you:

My striped male. Looks very Obsoleta like but is 100% corn:

Or how do you like the Bloodred corn posted? Older Bloodred corns tend to have that look between their scales. I am convinced it is a true corn.

Just my 2 cents

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Marcel Poots (Holland)
'Where is your crown King Nothing?' James Hettfield

Here is a perfectly good example of a blood with separating scales (as you described it). Picture courtesy of Kathy Love. Look at the snake top left.

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Marcel Poots (Holland)
'Where is your crown King Nothing?' James Hettfield

that dense? It matches identically with other bloodred corns and does not match with any ratsnakes I have on hand or have pictures of. It IS a corn snake, which is a rat snake, but not an obsoleta. I will be taking it to the reptile store either way, and I of course will let you know the results (although they seem pretty clearcut already). Thanks for your response anyway to all of my posts, I really appreciate them. Andy
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Andy Maddox
Houston Herp Key
The Reptizone

Who are you who can say it's ok to live through me? Alice In Chains

You know, Andy, the more I look at it, the more I think it's not a domestic. It's a little hard to tell from the pic, but does it have any trace at all of an organized dorsal pattern (longitudinal stripes or blotches)? I posted on the original thread on the other forum that I thought it might indeed be an African species of some kind. But at the moment, I can't find my reference book on south African snakes. Are you sure we can rule out African House snake?

You might need to post some more pics. Those of us who aren't fully convinced of that critter's identity will not rest easy until we figure it out! (I'm referring to the snake )
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MichaelB

I have some more pics I can get up later. I do feel fairly confident it is a bloodred...the belly pattern matches identically. But I have some closeups on my friend's comp. that I could have up by tonight. Andy
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Andy Maddox
Houston Herp Key
The Reptizone

Who are you who can say it's ok to live through me? Alice In Chains

>>Posted this on the what kind forum and got mixed results. Received from a friend of a friend as an "african rat" which it undoubtedly is not. It has been suggested that it is a "blood corn" or possibly a glades rat or glades/yellow. Any help is appreciated. Male/4-4.5 ft. Thanks. Andy
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>>Andy Maddox
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>> The Reptizone
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>>Who are you who can say it's ok to live through me? Alice In Chains
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Marcel Poots (Holland)
'Where is your crown King Nothing?' James Hettfield

Whatever it is it's absolutely gorgeous!! Where can I find one like that and how much are they??

>>Posted this on the what kind forum and got mixed results. Received from a friend of a friend as an "african rat" which it undoubtedly is not. It has been suggested that it is a "blood corn" or possibly a glades rat or glades/yellow. Any help is appreciated. Male/4-4.5 ft. Thanks. Andy
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>>Andy Maddox
>> Houston Herp Key
>> The Reptizone
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>>Who are you who can say it's ok to live through me? Alice In Chains

Haha I got it for free. What was confusing me is that I was told I was receiving an "african rat" which I expected to be a house snake or a diadem rat. A friend of a friend couldn't take care of it anymore, so I got the snake without even seeing it first. Andy
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Andy Maddox
Houston Herp Key
The Reptizone

Who are you who can say it's ok to live through me? Alice In Chains

Def. a corn snake of some sort (has bloodred in it at least). Thanks. Andy
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Andy Maddox
Houston Herp Key
The Reptizone

Who are you who can say it's ok to live through me? Alice In Chains

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PETSMART NOT PETSMAT

There would seem to be too much yellow in the ventral pattern. Bloodreds that I have seen are mainly white. I will stand corrected if someone like Don or Kathy can correct me here, I have an adult male everglades rat that looks very very similar to that snake. I think the yellow is the key here.

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