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I read some of the responses to the girl, Stephanie, who wants to buy some CRBs and you all discourage her from getting them and instead urge her to buy BRBs.

First off, CRBs are still very pretty when they mature.

Second, this is her FIRST rainbow boa....again her FIRST. Last time I checked, and you guys heard me stress this MANY times, CRBs are much more forgiving of mistakes a first time keeper would make, particularly being tolerable of lower humidity levels as opposed to the BRBs. This displays hardiness....something you definitely want in your first snake/rainbow boa.
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Scott

Reptiles
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1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)

Other
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1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)
1.0 Hooded Rat* (Clubber, R.I.P.)
0.1 Albino Rat (Isis)

He he he. Thanks for pointing that out. *grins*

Hey, P.S.

Got any good photos of adult Columbians?

I posted my best pic of Rocky, my prized CRB, in your thread. Here is the same one plus a few more.

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Scott

Reptiles
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1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)

Other
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1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)
1.0 Hooded Rat* (Clubber, R.I.P.)
0.1 Albino Rat (Isis)

two other goodies of my CRB and his setup. I should point out that the branch has been removed and there is no lighting. It is heated by a heat pad under one side of the cage that is controlled by a rheostat. The screen lid is covered with glass and a towel to keep the humidity between 50 and 70%. Oh yea, the substrate is cypress mulch combined with sphagnum moss.

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Scott

Reptiles
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1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)

Other
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1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)
1.0 Hooded Rat* (Clubber, R.I.P.)
0.1 Albino Rat (Isis)

blah blah blah.. my snakes are still prettier then yours!!
(Just kidding) - I don't think any locale make for better or worse first snake based on their locale alone, they all require conditions under set perimeters.. and the keeper just needs to be prepared to provide those conditions.

I think the best selection is the one that the keeper is most interested in - There are a lot of great choices.

>>I read some of the responses to the girl, Stephanie, who wants to buy some CRBs and you all discourage her from getting them and instead urge her to buy BRBs.
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>>First off, CRBs are still very pretty when they mature.
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>>Second, this is her FIRST rainbow boa....again her FIRST. Last time I checked, and you guys heard me stress this MANY times, CRBs are much more forgiving of mistakes a first time keeper would make, particularly being tolerable of lower humidity levels as opposed to the BRBs. This displays hardiness....something you definitely want in your first snake/rainbow boa.
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>>Scott
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>>Reptiles
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>>1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
>>1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
>>0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
>>1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
>>0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)
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>>Other
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>>1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)
>>1.0 Hooded Rat* (Clubber, R.I.P.)
>>0.1 Albino Rat (Isis)
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photos.xtremecombatsports.com

....this isn't locale we are talking about. This is just subspecies we are discussing. If you want to discuss locales check out the GTP or gray-banded kings forums.
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Scott

Reptiles
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1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)

Other
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1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)
1.0 Hooded Rat* (Clubber, R.I.P.)
0.1 Albino Rat (Isis)

wrong verbage.. the point is still the same..

>>....this isn't locale we are talking about. This is just subspecies we are discussing. If you want to discuss locales check out the GTP or gray-banded kings forums.
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>>Scott
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>>Reptiles
>>--------
>>1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
>>1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
>>0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
>>1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
>>0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)
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>>Other
>>-----
>>1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)
>>1.0 Hooded Rat* (Clubber, R.I.P.)
>>0.1 Albino Rat (Isis)
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photos.xtremecombatsports.com

....my snake is still prettier! just kidding!
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Scott

Reptiles
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1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)

Other
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1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)
1.0 Hooded Rat* (Clubber, R.I.P.)
0.1 Albino Rat (Isis)

Isle MAJORO beats them both, damn i dont know who sells them though, and how big do they gte like 8 feet?
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Theres no need to ask directions if you ever lose you mind...

Trying to save Stephanie from swaying over to the less patterned side of rainbows. We all love our BRB's and the highly patterned looks they all have and keep through their entire lifetimes. IMO BRB's start out pretty and very often get way better looking as the mature. Also IMO CRB's start out pretty and lose most of that as they mature. I like pattern. So you should not be upset with us for pointing out our preferences (BRB's) just as I'm not upset with you for pointing out yours (CRB's).

$120 for a CRB is (again IMO) way too much to spend when for the same price or a little more you could get a BRB.

Of course, maybe she'd be better off with a CRB, she did say she wanted only one snake and if she had a BRB, we all know one BRB is never enough. Maybe one CRB would be enough.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
24.36 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

OUCH! "she did say she wanted only one snake and if she had a BRB, we all know one BRB is never enough. Maybe one CRB would be enough."
translated: brb's ROCK! and crb's well um.. not so much.
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-Jasmine

1.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boas
(Mercutio and Kajika)

Dave, I couldn't have said it any better myself! I totally agree. As I was saying before go with the Brazilian for sure!! I think anyone would say that just by looking through your collection pics.

Ike Lightner
1.1 BRB (Dugo & Roxy)

....they're of one CRB. I think Rocky's pics allow for some serious competition.
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Scott

Reptiles
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1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)

Other
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1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)
1.0 Hooded Rat* (Clubber, R.I.P.)
0.1 Albino Rat (Isis)

So that's the only relpy you have to that? Obviously you don't care to defend your bland looking snake...

Rocky was $75. And I don't think everyone cares about pattern in a snake, otherwise regular ball pythons wouldn't be all over the place...
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Scott

Reptiles
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1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)

Other
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1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)
1.0 Hooded Rat* (Clubber, R.I.P.)
0.1 Albino Rat (Isis)

Pet stores have a markup. And that $75 plus the cost of shipping doesn't come to very much less now, does it? *chuckles* As I said, I'm still deciding. They're both beautiful, after all. I don't think I'd be terribly disappointed with either sort.

You BRB guys shouldn't slam CRBs so hard! They've both got things going for them, and they're all prettier then any ball python or redtail boa I've ever seen. (Redtails kind of creep me out, they're weird looking. My boyfriend likes them, but I told him he can buy himself a snake then, if he wants one!)

I bought him from his owner....who happened to be my roommate.
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Scott

Reptiles
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1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)

Other
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1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)
1.0 Hooded Rat* (Clubber, R.I.P.)
0.1 Albino Rat (Isis)

Lucky you to be able to get one so easily then!

I really am not too keen on the idea of getting a snake shipped. Particularly the bit where I have to buy an animal I've never handled or even seen. (Photos don't count! They really don't give you much information.)

I was worried about shipping too when my wife ordered the Hogg Island Boa for me for our anniversary...We didn't have much info, I only knew it was coming from a guy in Florida, but she arrived in good shape and is healthy and beautiful. In short, I was very happy with our one experience with shipping.

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-David

1.0 ball python (Pandora - don't ask)
1.0 argentine boa (Prometheus)
0.1 hogg island boa (Andromeda)
0.0.1 brazilian rainbow boa (Inara)
1.0 kenyan sand boa (Diablo)
1.0 normal corn snake(Cypress)
0.1 amery. corn snake (Morgan LaFay)
0.0.1 banded cali. kingsnake (Cain)
1.0 tangerine honduran milksnake (Narcissus)
0.0.1 snow corn snake (Valkyrie)
1.0 amazon tree boa (Pegasus)
0.0.1 colombian boa (Athena)
0.0.1 sandfish skink (Slick)
0.0.1 fire skink (Phoenix)
1.0 dog (Luke)

the wife's pets:
1.1 ferrets (Ares, Enyo)
0.0.1 betta fish (Captain Morgan)
1.2 cats (Galahad, Ripley and Sassy)

that is a GORGEOUS hogg!!!!!!!
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Scott

Reptiles
--------
1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)

Other
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1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)
1.0 Hooded Rat* (Clubber, R.I.P.)
0.1 Albino Rat (Isis)

Thanks! We were extremely happy when she arrived; she's a great looking Hogg...I can't wait for her to grow up! BTW, I do prefer BRBs, but Rocky is a great looking CRB...I've never seen many CRBs before. The only adult CRB I've ever seen in person was in horrible shape...it was at a pet shop and had scars all over from bits. It was missing it's left eye, and they were keeping it on sand I so wanted to take it home with me.
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-David

1.0 ball python (Pandora - don't ask)
1.0 argentine boa (Prometheus)
0.1 hogg island boa (Andromeda)
0.0.1 brazilian rainbow boa (Inara)
1.0 kenyan sand boa (Diablo)
1.0 normal corn snake(Cypress)
0.1 amery. corn snake (Morgan LaFay)
0.0.1 banded cali. kingsnake (Cain)
1.0 tangerine honduran milksnake (Narcissus)
0.0.1 snow corn snake (Valkyrie)
1.0 amazon tree boa (Pegasus)
0.0.1 colombian boa (Athena)
0.0.1 sandfish skink (Slick)
0.0.1 fire skink (Phoenix)
1.0 dog (Luke)

the wife's pets:
1.1 ferrets (Ares, Enyo)
0.0.1 betta fish (Captain Morgan)
1.2 cats (Galahad, Ripley and Sassy)

....that you all make it sound like CRBs are the ugliest things this world has ever seen. You mean to tell me Burms are prettier? I mean full grown burms?
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Scott

Reptiles
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1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)

Other
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1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)
1.0 Hooded Rat* (Clubber, R.I.P.)
0.1 Albino Rat (Isis)

Scott,

I am only speaking for myself when I say this but, I was really just trying to not mislead her. She did mention she loved their pattern and we all know that give that snake (baby CRB) a year or two and it's going to be solid mud colored with no pattern. now if that is what she's wanting then by all means but I just wanted to make sure that she was aware of the difference between the two snakes. (I.E. 1 is amazingly pretty it's entire life and the other, well it is for about a year of its life)

Just my 2.5 cents though.

Ike Lightner
1.1 BRB (Dugo & Roxy)

I actually had been a bit puzzled by that, as I'd seen photos of very strongly patterned snakes, and plain solid snakes, both marked as Columbians. I figured somebody was confused somewhere, turns out the confused person was me!

I'm still deciding, really. The patterns on the Brazilians are nice, but I am not really fond of orange/red, I liked Columbians mostly because of the earth tone colors, particularly as they seem to show off the rainbow sheen very well. If Columbians kept their markings, I'd be Columbian all the way. As they don't, it's really six of one, half dozen of the other, I like the patterns, but I like the color too. And the hardiness is definitely a factor, as is the local availability. I may ask the pet place if they can get Brazilians in, just to see what my options are.

I've still got a month or so to make up my mind before I'll be able to get one!

Not all BRB's are brightly colored, there are those that have darker colors, mainly browns, AND still keep their patterns!!!! The darker colored ones do show off the irridescence better.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
24.36 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

I have a sneaking suspicion that darker ones tend to go for a higher price. The rule seems to be if there's anything at all different or odd about it, it costs extra $$$.

Actually no, Supply and demand, much higher demand for the brighter colored ones so they command the higher prices. I usually have range of babies from brightly colored ones to darker ones and the darker ones go for the lower prices. You might just be in a great place, liking the ones many do not.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
24.36 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Interesting! I'll have to keep that in mind then.

I took a couple of pics that rival my stick man drawings in quality but I tried for you. Unfortunately the one I wanted show you the most will shed tonight or tomorrow but I took her pic anyways and couple of other ones too for you

my shiniest female but this is as ugly as she gets unfortunately and has really nice crescent color too but the extra layer of skin is holding her back though but here she is tonight

and her about six or so months back

and here is a male that my friend bought and couldn't take care of it took me awhile to get a full clean shed from him but here he is and a little fiesty with a blurry pic cuz he won't stop moving

and another female that is going into shed but I tried and here she is

hope this helps
Bob

Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooo... Man, you tempt me. Those are gorgeous!

So... how hard would it be, just hypothetically speaking, to get my hands on one with that kind of coloration (preferably a male) sometime around mid/late August?

Ummmmm, not hard at all.....just call any one of us that sponsor this forum.

Here's a couple I produced and held back from last year:

Blush BO-PO-18 "Lon"

Lily

and a group shot to show differences in colors available:
rainbow soup

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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
24.36 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Dave,
...Is there enough resolution in your "Rainbow Soup" PIC to blow it up and make a poster?
Jeff

>>Ummmmm, not hard at all.....just call any one of us that sponsor this forum.
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>>Here's a couple I produced and held back from last year:
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>>Blush BO-PO-18 "Lon"
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>>Lily
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>>and a group shot to show differences in colors available:
>>rainbow soup
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>>Thanks,
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>>Dave Colling
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>>www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com
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>>0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
>>0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)
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>>LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
>>24.36 BRB
>>19.19 BCI
>>And those are only the breeders
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>>lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Hmmmm, there's a thought, I do have the original at 2989 x 1690......
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
24.36 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

unfortunately that won't look great as a poster. Ideally you want to print between 270dpi and 300dpi for nice high quality photo finish and 225 dpi for poster quality. At 2989x1690 @200dpi you are still only around 8.5"x15", That would give you an ok image if you were not right against it (standing back looking at it on a wall..) and you may be able to cheat a bit more with it by interpolating the images pixels to gain some size (can easily be down for a small amount %5 or so.. ). Even at the max resolution though and full frame image, a 20d is pushing it to get a photo quality print at 11x17.. with poster quality at 17x24.

That said.. it would be very easy to take full frame images of each snake.. then ps them together into a larger poster sized image. Just need to make sure the lighting is consistant and background is constant.

>>Hmmmm, there's a thought, I do have the original at 2989 x 1690......
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>>Thanks,
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>>Dave Colling
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>>www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com
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>>0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
>>0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)
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>>LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
>>24.36 BRB
>>19.19 BCI
>>And those are only the breeders
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>>lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats
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photos.xtremecombatsports.com

Hey, if you like the dark ones, check this girl out. This is my one of my '06 females from Dave, her name is Mauve. She has been getting darker and darker with each shed. It actually looks really neat on her!

Inside w/Flash:

Outside in shade:

Outside in sunlight:

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Aubrey Ross

©
www.SlipstreamSerpents.com

Hey Aubrey, She's looking nice, thanks for the pics, I do so much love to see my babies out there and doing well!!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
24.36 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Thanks for sharing the photos. This is one very pretty snake!

here's a few pics of mine...she is still fairly small, but growing like crazy! Anyways, I don't know how bright she'll get with age, but right now she has a nice, dark look to her. Thought you might want to see some pics other than Dave's that I personally think are some of the best I've EVER seen!

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-David

1.0 ball python (Pandora - don't ask)
1.0 argentine boa (Prometheus)
0.1 hogg island boa (Andromeda)
0.0.1 brazilian rainbow boa (Inara)
1.0 kenyan sand boa (Diablo)
1.0 normal corn snake(Cypress)
0.1 amery. corn snake (Morgan LaFay)
0.0.1 banded cali. kingsnake (Cain)
1.0 tangerine honduran milksnake (Narcissus)
0.0.1 snow corn snake (Valkyrie)
1.0 amazon tree boa (Pegasus)
0.0.1 colombian boa (Athena)
0.0.1 sandfish skink (Slick)
0.0.1 fire skink (Phoenix)
1.0 dog (Luke)

the wife's pets:
1.1 ferrets (Ares, Enyo)
0.0.1 betta fish (Captain Morgan)
1.2 cats (Galahad, Ripley and Sassy)

...that BRB's and CRB's are not the only types of rainbows.

We also have things like Argentian Rainbow Boa's which if memory serves me keep a strong pattern but with more earth tone colors then BRB's. Not sure how the colors differ between ARB and CRB.

And Definitely just get whatever snake you will like the most rather then letting what others like influence you. But definitely use everyones pics and experience to make a educated choice.

Sean.

Go ahead....diss him....and raise some serious hell...

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Scott

Reptiles
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1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)

Other
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1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)
1.0 Hooded Rat* (Clubber, R.I.P.)
0.1 Albino Rat (Isis)

But most of us prefer the brighter colors of a BRB.

Simple preference, nobody is saying Rocky is ugly, just that we like the ones we keep better. Come to think of it, you're saying the exact same thing!!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
24.36 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

I know you love Rocky and would bow to him if you were in his presence! hehehe
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Scott

Reptiles
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1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)

Other
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1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)
1.0 Hooded Rat* (Clubber, R.I.P.)
0.1 Albino Rat (Isis)

bow to him, I would pick him up and hold him and check him out, flash him around in the light and check out his irridescence and then give him back.

You really need to chill out. You're seriously in the minority, thinking CRB's look better while many peeps all agree BRB's look better. You will always get called on that. IMO you have two choices:

1) Stay here and keep talking up CRB's (and duck from all the flack)

2) Give up and let the majority push you around/away!

IMO Scott, suck it up and stay, we need you to keep us balanced!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
24.36 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

about the bowing balogny.....hence the hehehe.
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Scott

Reptiles
--------
1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)

Other
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1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)
1.0 Hooded Rat* (Clubber, R.I.P.)
0.1 Albino Rat (Isis)

or option 3.) buy an 07' BRB and get your life back on the right track.

I can't get anymore snakes at the moment.....so another snake is out of the question. The nest snake is being planned and will most likely be either a northern black racer or another CRB :-D
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Scott

Reptiles
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1 Colombian Rainbow Boa (Rocky)
1.0 Ball Python (Sultan)
0.1 California Kingsnake (Leota)
1.0 Eastern Painted Turtle (Yugi)
0.1 Red/Gold Bearded Dragon* (Irwin, R.I.P.)

Other
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1.0 Betta Fish (Tyrone)
1.0 Hooded Rat* (Clubber, R.I.P.)
0.1 Albino Rat (Isis)

Just as Dave said Scott Rocky is beatiful for a CRB. I never said he was ugly I said I prefer BRB and was trying to explain why, whatever you prefer is your own issue.

I would recommend a CRB to someone after they have kept other boids.

I have kept corns, kings, and milks. This CRB is an education in maintenance!!!

not bad, just needs more attention.