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Chaos when they where born, pictures to follow of how they have progressed.
Hope you enjoy Peter

As Peters computer skills are not quite as advanced as his ability to produce outstanding Boas, I thought I'd better post a few recent photos on his behalf!................

Marc Norrie
Selective Bred Reptiles

www.selectivebred.com

some very very nice ones there Peter , hope to see them in the flesh oneday

Hi Peter, really nice looking animals, thanks for sharing with us.

I have a "nomenclature" question for the group. Suppose, hypothetically, that a chaos was bred to a jungle, and something resembling a super jungle was produced. Would Peter's mutation then become known as a possibly unrelated yet compatible line of "jungle"? The reason I ask is that it is highly likely that there will be (are) stray, yet recognized, genes running around out there, paricularly in captive bred populations, that will reappear occasionally. Perhaps a low expression jungle gets passed around, forgotten about, etc. and later gets bred and appears to be a "new" genetically aberrant morph, but really isn't. Btw, I am not proposing that the Chaos came to be via this scenario. I've read Peter's doumentation of the origin of the line. The visual similarity between it and jungle only caused the question to pop into my head, no offense to Peter or the Chaos boa intended! The same question would apply to any morph. Btw, who exactly are the "morph police" that decides these things?? lol (just kidding!)

I understand the difference between a "line" and a "morph". So I suppose the question is would the Chaos become a recognized "line" of the already recognized jungle morph instead of a seperately recognized "morph" of its own, if this scenario played out?

Or do I just have too much time on my hands and I am thinking too much...? lol

Mark

uncommonboa.com

Hi Mark,

IMO, if the lines turn out to be compatible, ex: breed a chaos (or whatever type) to a known 'jungle' and you produce jungles and super jungles consistently (every time and the results are showing the expected inheritable expression), then they are both 'jungles' or whichever morph name is the most accepted.

I've sold 66% poss het Kahl albinos to a pet store... down the line, someone's going to get a surprise and have albinos without expecting it. Does this mean it's a new strain of albino? Well, breed it to a known Kahl and you've proved it's just the Kahl strain. This is how I was looking at it.

I'd like to see the Chaos, Harlequin, Pearlesents, Jungles, etc bred to each other, you never know, one or more may turn out to be compatible.

It'll just take time and someone willing to do it.

-April

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'There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."' -Rainshadow

Thank you for your response April. I have to say I agree with everything you said. Eventually, someone will get around to it. The results should prove very interesting!

Mark

uncommonboa.com

Thanks for the reply Mark & April I will breed the Chaos to a Jungle next year we have however noticed different patterning in the Chaos litter that is totally different to that of any other jungle morph out there I don't no of any pinstripe Jungles or spotted jungles that exist.
As you seam to have your fingers on the pulse could you
please enlighten me as I am alway willing to read and learn

Regards Peter

Peter - in a word FANTASTIC!!. I will be up to collect mine ..when they are availabel! Although I do agree with Marc- keep to the breeding and leave I.T. skills alone LOL.
Anyhow is it 'Kaos' or 'Chaos'??
www.rhinovivs.eu

Awesome Pics Peter! Very excited about these Chaos Boas.
It's amazing to see the variation and how nice they're all turning out. I can't wait to see what the super form will bring!!!

Great job with these
Alex