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Naming the Hypomelanistic Lavender morph

ZFelicien Jul 22, 2007 08:26 PM

ok over the past few days I've been giving thought to actually naming this 2x mutation! For one thing, typing "Hypomelanistic Lavender" as well as saying it can get annoying!

Some may call this mutation "Hybino" but it is not a true Hybino. So I've eliminated that possibility, reserving it for the T negative Amel X Hypomelanistic Florida king (actual Hybino)... [whenever we see those (approx 3yrs hopefully...)]

After much thinking, searching and trying to link the appearance of the morph to something suitable... Fruity, Sweet, colorful, bright, florescent (as the morph is)...

I came up with...

Coral Brooksi (Hypomelanistic lavender Florida Kingsnake)

Opinions anyone?

~ZF
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Royal ReptileZ

Replies (13)

Bluerosy Jul 22, 2007 08:46 PM

Well if you want an opinion I will give mine.

The hybino is already the "accepted" name for the lavender x hypo. A few people produced them last year and they sold for $1000. each. If you rename them you will just confuse the already enough confused brooks market into oblivion.

Now I realize the T negative that I have will change things. When the first true hybino is produced I have no idea what to call it. But it may be more confusing for some to think the T neg hybino is the lav hybino and visa versa. The same thing happened to me with the peanut Butter. The name " hypo" was alrady taken and from all apprarances at that time the peanut appeared to be JUST another strain of hypo. I called it a hypo typoe B but forums members here voted and decided i should call it a Peanut butter (not my fault guys).

But as it turns out is is not just a hypo type B and i am glad the name Peanut butter stuck (pun intended ) because of its unusual codom traits.

Now just for fun. I think your hybino is more red than the other hybinos I have seen last year. So maybe you can call yours a Coral hybino?.. or somethin like that. But unless you did something different by outbreeding to another source {or line) it is still the same hybino that a couple breeders popped out last year.

For instance if I breed my Sulfur lavender into a hypo and they produce hybinos I might call them "Sulfur hybinos" because the sulfur gene changed the look,color and line.

There you got it. Thats my opinon.
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ZFelicien Jul 22, 2007 09:06 PM

Well is one year really gonna confuse much?... currently I'm working on a Brooksi Morph Web site so to be extensive I've formulated every possible 2x and 3x Brooksi mutation and there are tree different "Hybino" possibilities with the morphs we have now and I think calling 3 different morphs (you know which 3) Hybino will be redundant and even more confusing than differentiating them with "funky" names [ And I don't mean names that sound like Mexican food... *inside joke*]

I have an idea in mind on how to improve these "Coral Brooksi" and I think it'll make um BOOM!... I do think with enough exposure the name can catch on.

~Z
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Royal ReptileZ

shannon brown Jul 22, 2007 11:49 PM

First thing that popped into my head when I read "coral" was hybrid. Steve osborne already used that name with his coral pink pastel yada yada thayeri hybrids. Just my .02
I think if there is going to be three then use sunglow with the t- maybe.
Shannon

Bluerosy Jul 23, 2007 12:46 AM

Sunglow sounds good to me for the T negative X hypo homoz.

This way there is less confusion.

So we have for Florida kings:

hybino = lav x hypo
Peabino = lav x Peanut butter
Sunglow = T neg X hypo
Jelly = T neg x Peanut Butter (but this one is codom)
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Bluerosy Jul 23, 2007 01:04 AM

First thing that popped into my head when I read "coral" was hybrid

Same thing here Shannon.

The last time i heard of a legit Coral was back in the 70's when they used to call the black, white and red mountain kingsnakes "Coral kingsnakes".
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CrimsonKing Jul 23, 2007 04:07 AM

There's coral snow cornsnakes among others I suspect.
:Mark
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shannon brown Jul 23, 2007 01:23 PM

yep, back in the early 90s seven Generations tried to name low end apricot pueblans "coral phase" also.
L8r

foxturtle Jul 23, 2007 01:56 PM

Lindsay Jul 23, 2007 08:39 AM

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>>...and i am glad the name Peanut butter stuck
Heh heh heh, Good One!

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>>I think your hybino is more red than the other hybinos I have seen last year. So maybe you can call yours a Coral hybino?.. or somethin like that.....
>>...if I breed my Sulfur lavender into a hypo and they produce hybinos I might call them "Sulfur hybinos" because the sulfur gene changed the look,color and line.
>>

I think that brings up an important point about posting photos or describing morphs in response to questions from someone unfamiliar with the trait. A description of exactly what aspect to the snakes appearance makes it that morph would be great once in a while to go along with the photo. But I guess that's why it's time for morph guides like the cornsnake folks have done for decades. Foxturtle and I have discussed doing one for years but never gotten around to it. We'd need to borrow quite a few photos since I tend to only own the original "components" that I knew came from Florida stock (hypo, axanthic, sulfur, etc), or locality stuff, and none of the double-homozygous stuff either.
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Lindsay Pike
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ZFelicien Jul 23, 2007 10:19 AM

off topic a bit...

That white hypo (lightest) you got there along with a NE axanthic would make some pretty killer ghosts!

just an observation

~ZF
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Royal ReptileZ

foxturtle Jul 22, 2007 09:54 PM

A snake expressing both hypo and albino is called a Sunglow, though I'm not aware of this term being used for lavender albino and hypo.

Maybe Sunglow would be a better term for a T-neg Albino/hypo. You could call yours a lavender sunglow. Or call them whatever you like. I think it makes sense to stick with what the majority of the reptile industry calls such a thing.

There haven't been that many hybino brooks/floridana produced... I don't think anyone's heart would be broken if they were given a different name.

Nokturnel Tom Jul 22, 2007 11:50 PM

Seriously, call one a Hybino and one a Sunglow, that's a simple solution and many people are familiar with those two names
Tom Stevens
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Bluerosy Jul 23, 2007 12:55 AM

Seriously, call one a Hybino and one a Sunglow, that's a simple solution and many people are familiar with those two names

I agree. if you mess with the hybino name you mess with all the other ones like Ghost, snow ect. Thats why we have the "Phantom" for the Anery x PB and for (the yet unseen) axanthic X PB I think we should call that a "Peanut butter Ghost".

This makes it easier to differentitae from Ghost type A and Ghost type B and hypo type A and hypo typeB and so on...
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