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Cal King webbing

FunkyRes Jul 23, 2007 11:03 PM

What I call webbing (what I use to call dirty bands) are bands where the dark base color exists on the edges of the scales of the light band scales, making a web.

The Cal Kings in East Contra Costa County exhibit this type of banding (as well as other locales).

Here is my male:

You can see his brown color around the edges of the cream scales.

I breed him to a banded amel female with vibrant yellow bands (best after shed - and it has been awhile). Here's her bands:

Because she's amel, it may be hard to notice any webbing if it did exist, but it looks to me like it does not.

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Out of their 5 young last year, I held back two females.
The first to hatch and the fifth to hatch.

Here is the first - and I find this exciting:

Her bands are definitely yellow like her mothers bands though not quite as vivid, but they are also webbed like daddy's bands. Webbing to me anyway looks a lot better on yellow than it does on cream.

Her sister -

I'll try to replace that with a better pic.
Anyway - her bands are much more like fathers in colour, but very little webbing if any.

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Anyway - from that pairing, I'm holding back a male this year.
I have no idea how yellow he will end up or how much webbing he will have - but if he isn't like big sister, I'll hold back another male in '08 etc. until I get a male to match her.

Unfortunate byproduct is that some of the F2s will be amel, but only a quarter of them.

Anyway - I really like the effect of webbing on yellow bands, and I think it would be kind of neat to try to line breed some that have a really vivid yellow with very distinct webbing.

Not something I intended to produce with the pairing, just kind of neat that it happened. I find it really attractive.
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11.14 L. getula californiae (Cal. King)
2.3 L. getula nigrita (MBK)
1.0 L. getula floridana (Brooksi)
1.0 Pantherophis guttatus guttatus (Corn)
0.1 Pituophis catenifer catenifer (Pacific gopher)
4.2 Elgaria multicarinata multicarinata - 14 eggs (Cal. Alligator Lizard)

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Kerby... Jul 23, 2007 11:18 PM

Here is a wild-caught that I found in my rodent room. Fed him and then released him.

I live in central Arizona at 5,000 ft in elevation. It is quite common to find that.

Kerby...
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FunkyRes Jul 23, 2007 11:22 PM

It's also somewhat common in SoCal from the fieldherpforum pics I've seen.

I just think it looks really good on yellow bands (there probably are locality populations that are like that naturally) - better than on cream like daddy has.
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11.14 L. getula californiae (Cal. King)
2.3 L. getula nigrita (MBK)
1.0 L. getula floridana (Brooksi)
1.0 Pantherophis guttatus guttatus (Corn)
0.1 Pituophis catenifer catenifer (Pacific gopher)
4.2 Elgaria multicarinata multicarinata - 14 eggs (Cal. Alligator Lizard)

reako45 Jul 26, 2007 06:37 PM

My little King that I caught here in Chatsworth has got that type of "webbing" between his bands (doubt you can see it in the pic). I'm also hoping to get some Baldwin Hills locale Kings and though I haven't seen them, I suspect that they too will have similar "dirty" bands.

reako45
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FunkyRes Jul 23, 2007 11:37 PM

Better pic of the one with cream bands w/ little or no webbing

She's 100% amel as mommy is amel, I may try to breed her with a cream banded cal to make 50% het amel to try and eventually produce amel w/ cream bands. She's got the least yellow in her bands of that clutch, though there is some visible yellow (washed out by the flash).
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11.14 L. getula californiae (Cal. King)
2.3 L. getula nigrita (MBK)
1.0 L. getula floridana (Brooksi)
1.0 Pantherophis guttatus guttatus (Corn)
0.1 Pituophis catenifer catenifer (Pacific gopher)
4.2 Elgaria multicarinata multicarinata - 14 eggs (Cal. Alligator Lizard)

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