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HELP with resp. issues. cant figure out

stormwulf133 Jul 23, 2007 11:03 PM

We have a snow corn that is about 2 years old. He had a RI when we first got him, we think from the stress of moving, a failing heat source etc. Treated him with injections. He was fine. A year later he got what we thought was another one. He started sneezing, took him to the vet, the vet said he looked fine. A week later he was sneezing more and had what looked like brown discharge around the mouth and nose though it could be from rubbing on his cork bark because it was new and he kept exploring it, so we took him to the vet. We gave him oral antibiotics for two weeks, and he seemed to clear up. Two weeks later, he is sneezing again. You can occasionally hear him wheeze. He seems to be breathing through his mouth a lot.

He is in a 75 gallon tank, with a custom top. He has a heat pad and a lamp. The temp in his cage was running about 85-87 on the hot side, and cooled down from there. We increased his temperature to about 95 on the hot side as per vets instructions. He is on aspen bedding because the heat pad says not to use newspaper, and I have been told not to use carpet on corns. Plus he never seems happy unless he can burrow. He has a box with moss in it for a humid hide which he uses sometimes.

Can this sneezing be something else? Could it be the bedding? Is there another type of bedding I can use? I could use carefresh but I work with it every day and its dry and dusty as heck.

I posted this in the health forum but got no responses. Does anyone have ANY ideas? We are almost in a panic now.

Replies (7)

goregrind Jul 24, 2007 05:04 AM

try taking the moss out of the box and switching to reptile carpet, its fine for corns
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jake

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0.1 amelenistic corn snake (maizy)
0.1 blizzard corn (blizz)
1.0 albino cal king (zeus)
0.0.1 wc garter (zim)
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draybar Jul 24, 2007 05:59 PM

>>try taking the moss out of the box and switching to reptile carpet, its fine for corns
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>>jake
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I didn't see anything about moss, maybe I missed that.
But I would never recommend reptile carpet over aspen
or most other substartes.
Reptile carpet holds odors, you have to remove everything in the tank to change it out. It has to be cleaned more often, if you want to keep a good clean tank, it holds bacteria in the weave.
It may just be me but like I said, I would never recommend it. Especially over aspen.
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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draybar Jul 24, 2007 06:12 PM

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the moss is in the humid hide...it isn't the substrate
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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PHLdyPayne Jul 24, 2007 11:48 AM

have you tried paper towel?

I don't see why it is bad to use newspaper with a under tank heating pad, unless it may cause problems with the ink on newspaper. Hence, plain unprinted paper towel should be fine.
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PHLdyPayne

JasonW Jul 24, 2007 03:26 PM

I use reptiles carpet in all of my enclosures. The stuff is great, easy to clean and safe for the snake.
Foot Hill Reptiles

draybar Jul 24, 2007 06:11 PM

>>We have a snow corn that is about 2 years old. He had a RI when we first got him, we think from the stress of moving, a failing heat source etc. Treated him with injections. He was fine. A year later he got what we thought was another one. He started sneezing, took him to the vet, the vet said he looked fine. A week later he was sneezing more and had what looked like brown discharge around the mouth and nose though it could be from rubbing on his cork bark because it was new and he kept exploring it, so we took him to the vet. We gave him oral antibiotics for two weeks, and he seemed to clear up. Two weeks later, he is sneezing again. You can occasionally hear him wheeze. He seems to be breathing through his mouth a lot.
>>
>>He is in a 75 gallon tank, with a custom top. He has a heat pad and a lamp. The temp in his cage was running about 85-87 on the hot side, and cooled down from there. We increased his temperature to about 95 on the hot side as per vets instructions. He is on aspen bedding because the heat pad says not to use newspaper, and I have been told not to use carpet on corns. Plus he never seems happy unless he can burrow. He has a box with moss in it for a humid hide which he uses sometimes.
>>
>>Can this sneezing be something else? Could it be the bedding? Is there another type of bedding I can use? I could use carefresh but I work with it every day and its dry and dusty as heck.
>>
>>I posted this in the health forum but got no responses. Does anyone have ANY ideas? We are almost in a panic now.

not many people check the sub-forums.
Although I use aspen and recommend aspen, anytime there may be repiritory problems I would go with paper towel and minimal furnishings (water bowl, a couple of hides and that's about it).
I can see where it could be a problem with nothing but a sheet of paper towel over the uth but you could possibly place a ceramic tile inside the tank, over the uth.
You might want to check with another vet because it does sound like a respiritory infection.
I would wait until everything clears up and stays that way for a month or two before putting the aspen back in.
I seriously don't believe the aspen is causing the problem but it is possible it could be aggravating the problem.
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

_____

rackemwells Aug 07, 2007 06:13 PM

it could def be the bedding, cypress is toxic to corn snakes, so i have read. I use red cypress, and my snakes love, it, and dont sneeze at all

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