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Difference between Cubans and "Puerto Ricans"

schmidtj Aug 19, 2003 04:53 AM

Hello,

here is are pictures of some of my cuban males, where you can see the colour difference of a captive bred Cuba Rockiguana male, Cyclura nubila nubila (grandparents from Cuba mainisland, Mayari Holguin) and a Captive bred Cuba Rockiguana male (Parents from Puerto Rico).

The "Cubans" from Cuba are nearly patternless and are sometime light blue on the head. They donot have red bellys like the Cubans from Puerto Rico.
Juergen

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schmidtj Aug 19, 2003 04:55 AM

Hello,

here is are pictures of some of my cuban males, where you can see the colour difference of a captive bred Cuba Rockiguana male, Cyclura nubila nubila (grandparents from Cuba mainisland, Mayari Holguin) and a Captive bred Cuba Rockiguana male (Parents from Puerto Rico).

The "Cubans" from Cuba are nearly patternless and are sometime light blue on the head. They donot have red bellys like the Cubans from Puerto Rico.
Juergen

Mark M Aug 19, 2003 09:50 AM

The ones from Guantanamo Bay which is on the mainland also look like the phase II lizard you have. How do you know where your lizards came from, out of curiosity, because that first lizard is very unusual looking but cool.

fhayden1 Aug 19, 2003 11:29 AM

The first pic looks like a Caymenesis to me. I have two Caymenesis that look like that.

FH

Mark M Aug 19, 2003 12:00 PM

Thats what I was thinking too, but I didn't want to imply anything. I also thought that it had a little blue on the head around the jaw making it a possible hybrid. I have a photo of a pure caymanensis from a photo I took at Cayman Brac, and they have a much deeper tan coloration. It could also be the film color quality that is deceptive.

fhayden1 Aug 19, 2003 08:05 PM

True. Caymenesis do have a much deeper tan but I think to what degree is variable. I'm not an expert but I have two Caymenesis produced by DB. One has a deep tan while the other is looking more somewhat Cuban like in color.

FH

schmidtj Aug 19, 2003 03:07 PM

The first picture is a pure bred captive bred Cyclura nubila nubila, his grandparents are wildcought by a herpetologist in the early 1980s, his grandmother is still in my posession. His mother and his father belong to a friend. Did you have some pictures of the animals in guantanamo ?
You can find some picture of C.n.nubila from CayoLargo and Holguin in the picture gallery on my webside.
You can also see a picture of his father:
http://www.geocities.com/cyclurasj/photogallery/nubila/nubilamale2.jpg

bobl Aug 19, 2003 10:17 AM

That's a beautiful Cyclura! Thanks for the picture.

cycluracornuta Aug 19, 2003 12:52 PM

When this animal is in intense natural sunlight, do his spikes turn bluish ?

schmidtj Aug 19, 2003 03:13 PM

Yes, his head and his spines are blue, his body colour turnes to light grey, I hope that I can make a picture when he is out in the sun.

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