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TimOsborne

atherisquamigera Jul 24, 2007 12:33 PM

hi, i was just doing some research on frogs and i saw that there was a user on talkto.thefrog.org that looked familiar! Was that you?
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-Jasmine

1.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boas
(Mercutio and Kajika)

Replies (15)

atherisquamigera Jul 24, 2007 12:41 PM

"I for one always love new people! Especially someone that communicate in thought out, and complete sentences." I never saw you complain about spelling or sentence structure like some of the members on other forums do. is this something I should watch out for? Should I start writing properly so you guys don't think I am stupid? (notice the capitalized I and the complete sentences) (i promise i'm not stupid...) =)
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-Jasmine

1.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boas
(Mercutio and Kajika)

atherisquamigera Jul 24, 2007 12:45 PM

that quote was part of your response to someone about mixing species. (i don't want to mix species, but that was the ONLY thread that had the words "black eyed tree frog" in it so I thought it would have some useful care info, i am having a hell of a time finding info on those cute little buggers)
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-Jasmine

1.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boas
(Mercutio and Kajika)

TimOsborne Jul 24, 2007 03:44 PM

They are hard to find information on. Not many people keep them on there. I have some, and a "frogfan" on there has some, not sure if anyone else does. I am getting ready to send my breeding stock to a member of that site as well as some froglets if you want some in the future, I will put you in touch with them.

As for information, you can keep them just like red eyes. Their care and breeding is almost identical. There is a great red eye care sheet on amphibiancare.com that will help you more then any other article I can think of for black eyes.

You are also welcome to email me any questions you have (bogart6868@aol.com).. orjust post them here (we will just have to watch them are it may get moved to the treefrog forum).

>>that quote was part of your response to someone about mixing species. (i don't want to mix species, but that was the ONLY thread that had the words "black eyed tree frog" in it so I thought it would have some useful care info, i am having a hell of a time finding info on those cute little buggers)
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>>-Jasmine
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>>1.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boas
>>(Mercutio and Kajika)
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atherisquamigera Jul 24, 2007 04:00 PM

reptile depot is selling them and i wanted some, but i was having such a difficult time finding info that i was almost gong to have to forget about them. (you can't really have an animal that you don't know how to care for.) thanks, info on red eyes is really easy to find. (i am also thinking about getting some of those)
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-Jasmine

1.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boas
(Mercutio and Kajika)

TimOsborne Jul 24, 2007 04:06 PM

While information on RETF's is easy to find, good information is a bit more scarce. Be careful which caresheets you follow, as there are a lot of self oppointed experts in the frog world that write their caresheets and post them as gospel after only having the frogs for a few days or weeks (and sometimes never having that species at all).

Again, if you have any questions, don't hesitate. I have kept a lot of South American treefrogs and darts. I will help if I can, if not I can certainly send you in the right direction to find good reliable help.

>>reptile depot is selling them and i wanted some, but i was having such a difficult time finding info that i was almost gong to have to forget about them. (you can't really have an animal that you don't know how to care for.) thanks, info on red eyes is really easy to find. (i am also thinking about getting some of those)
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>>-Jasmine
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>>1.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boas
>>(Mercutio and Kajika)
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photos.xtremecombatsports.com

atherisquamigera Jul 24, 2007 04:13 PM

by the way i was learning about gut-loading and food variety, and I was wondering if i could just breed a whole buncha different correctly sized bugs and feed them good food, and maybe i wouldn't even have to keep crickets... (i hope) some websites are saying that you can only feed them crickets and some are saying that you can feed them any bug that will fit in their mouths (light on the waxworms) i am more disposed to believe the second one simply cuz this seems more natural. and cuz the deal my boyfriend and i have is that we can get whatever herps we want as long as they don't live on crickets.
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-Jasmine

1.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boas
(Mercutio and Kajika)

TimOsborne Jul 24, 2007 04:21 PM

You want to make sure the feeders aren't high in fat. Also, the harder shells can sometimes cause problems.

With most of the tropical treefrogs, they are lunge feeders (dive bomb their food). They like food that is moving, but will try just about anything that they think will fit in their mouth. Lots of people feed them troical roaches, beetles, some worms, crickets, and if the frog is big enough, even pinkie mice (retf's rarely are big enough for that).

Having said all of that, the easiest diet to get commercially for most treefrogs is crickets. You can look into starting some of the smaller tropical roach colonies (a large part of their natural diet anyway) and go that route.. his darts will love the nymphs as well.

Redeyes and blackeyes will also sometimes refuse insects that are too small - fruit flies for example, even freshly morphed froglets will usually refuse to eat them.

>>by the way i was learning about gut-loading and food variety, and I was wondering if i could just breed a whole buncha different correctly sized bugs and feed them good food, and maybe i wouldn't even have to keep crickets... (i hope) some websites are saying that you can only feed them crickets and some are saying that you can feed them any bug that will fit in their mouths (light on the waxworms) i am more disposed to believe the second one simply cuz this seems more natural. and cuz the deal my boyfriend and i have is that we can get whatever herps we want as long as they don't live on crickets.
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>>-Jasmine
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>>1.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boas
>>(Mercutio and Kajika)
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photos.xtremecombatsports.com

atherisquamigera Jul 24, 2007 04:50 PM

well, Kajika's big tank developed a mold problem (I was gone for a while and the water built up in the drainage layer and the sogginess created quite a mold problem) anyway i got back and drained the drainage layer, and the mold didn't go away so yesterday I tore the ENTIRE tank apart, the only thing left is the background (*sniff* that tank took me 6 months to build) but anyway i am redesigning the whole thing, making the substrate level lower, dramatically reducing the pool, putting more plants in, etc. and i am also making plans to build a fully automated vivarium rack system and putting kajika in there, well her temporary cage isn't bad, so I decided that she could live in her temporary cage until I built the rack system and I could make my big tank into a tank for arboreal frogs. I will be done with the new tank by the end of this week (My boyfriend just bought a house and the reptile room has carpeting now, (we move in on the 31st of this month) so until we can rip the carpeting out of the reptile room I am not allowed to create cages, so I have to rebuild my big one in 1 week) So to make a long story short I will be ready for some red eyes in 2 weeks (got to let it cycle). (I don't have to quarenteen them if they all come from the same breeder right?)
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-Jasmine

1.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boas
(Mercutio and Kajika)

TimOsborne Jul 24, 2007 07:21 PM

"I don't have to quarenteen them if they all come from the same breeder right?"

With frogs Jasmine, as long as they come from the same place are were kept together prior to your purchase of them - I don't "q" em.
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atherisquamigera Jul 24, 2007 04:07 PM

wow that article you mentioned is the best one on red eyes i have read so far, do you know any reputable red eye breeders? it seems like it is very important that i get a captive bred one and i don't want someone passing off a wild-caught as a captive to me. I was debating whether to get red-eyes first or black eyes, this is going to be my first frog project, but my boyfriend keeps dart frogs and he's going to help me so i'm not worried.
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-Jasmine

1.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boas
(Mercutio and Kajika)

TimOsborne Jul 24, 2007 04:13 PM

"do you know any reputable red eye breeders"

Yeah.. several Let me know when you are ready to buy and I will help you find someone that has some available. I have about 400 froglets right now, but most of them are sold as soon as the temps allow me to ship them.
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rainbowsrus Jul 24, 2007 12:52 PM

thought out, and complete sentences

To me that simply means sentences that can easily be read and understood and convey a thought. Not necessarily properly punctuated, just ones that you can understand what the writer is trying to say. To me even typo's are not a big deal, as long as you can decipher the meaning without a ouija board.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
24.36 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

atherisquamigera Jul 24, 2007 01:29 PM

oooh! i've always wanted to try a ouija board! (but i have a terrible phobia of ghosts, i seriously can't sleep alone 9/10 nights cuz i'm afraid the ghosts will eat me, so i have yet to try a ouiji board, but it always looked so fun) (i can't believe i'm scared of ghosts and im 18)
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-Jasmine

1.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boas
(Mercutio and Kajika)

TimOsborne Jul 24, 2007 03:39 PM

You would have to have been following that forum for a bit to understand that post completely Jasmine. I don't have a problem with spelling, grammer or punctuation errors (I am a horrible when it comes to that myself). I simply enjoy conversation that is thought out and complete. I especially enjoy it if it either teaches me something, or provokes a thought or curiousity that later leads to learning something new.

Your post are always easy to follow and understand the point you are trying to make.. Makes the online "friendship" much easier.

>>"I for one always love new people! Especially someone that communicate in thought out, and complete sentences." I never saw you complain about spelling or sentence structure like some of the members on other forums do. is this something I should watch out for? Should I start writing properly so you guys don't think I am stupid? (notice the capitalized I and the complete sentences) (i promise i'm not stupid...) =)
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>>-Jasmine
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>>1.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boas
>>(Mercutio and Kajika)
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photos.xtremecombatsports.com

TimOsborne Jul 24, 2007 03:20 PM

Hey Jasmine, that is me! I haven't been on those forums a lot lately.. but it is a good site with a lot of good people. There are some really diverse experiences on that forum.

>>hi, i was just doing some research on frogs and i saw that there was a user on talkto.thefrog.org that looked familiar! Was that you?
>>-----
>>-Jasmine
>>
>>1.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boas
>>(Mercutio and Kajika)
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photos.xtremecombatsports.com

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