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A regular sulfur (not a brooksi, not a recessive mutation) and a central peninsula Florida king from the Tampa Bay Area.

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Lindsay Pike
Urotopia Uromastyx

You mean they were sold as Sulfur Florida Kings? I coulda swore they were Brooksi? Not that it makes too much a difference, especially seeing it is such a nice snake. I will be paying you a visit at the Expo for sure. Nice pic Tom Stevens
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TomsSnakes.com

hello ,do you know the origin of the sulfer,if i recall reading that it originated in Hillsborough Co.??(Tampa)

Sulfurs, at least the one pictured (Krysko line) originated from the salt marsh habitats (and nearby freshwater habitats) on the east side of Tampa Bay in Hillsborough County. According to some collectors, this area produced the lightest/brightest kings in the state.

Lindsay, very nice looking brooksi, but doesn't look like the "real" sulfur line. Definatley a super looking animal!

Here are the sulfurs I have.

Brandon Osborne

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www.brandonosbornereptiles.com

i would have to politely agree...very nice king but doesn't appear to be a sulfur.
daveb

>>www.brandonosbornereptiles.com

I know Len Krysko has marketed his high-yellow Hillsborough County Florida kingsnakes as "sulfur kings" for years. I always figured this was the "real" sulfur line. It was from Hillsborough locality stock, and never had goini or anything else bred to it.

Dream kings, by Andy Barr, came from kings collected in the same areas, and had a similar look, but had other stuff bred into them.

I know for a fact Lindsay's sulfurs came straight from Len Krysko. Where are yours from?

I know Len's "animal" came from Andy Barr and Mike Falcon, who originally started the project years and years ago. That "sulfur" that Len HAD died years ago and I'm not sure it every reproduced for him. I was told it did not.

These animals are supposedly also from the Tampa/Hillsboro area and were originated from the same line as Len's male. They were outcrossed and line bred with more Tampa area animals for what they are now. I'm surprised there aren't more of them around. I think they are by far the best looking yellow floridana you'll find.

That's what I know.

Brandon Osborne
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> I'm surprised there aren't more of them around. I think they are
> by far the best looking yellow floridana you'll find.

Yours are definitely very gorgeous.
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11.14 L. getula californiae (Cal. King)
2.3 L. getula nigrita (MBK)
1.0 L. getula floridana (Brooksi)
1.0 Pantherophis guttatus guttatus (Corn)
0.1 Pituophis catenifer catenifer (Pacific gopher)
4.2 Elgaria multicarinata multicarinata - 14 eggs (Cal. Alligator Lizard)

Visiting Len's house back in 2003, he had a few different sulfur kings he'd held back for himself. I'm not sure whether he ever bred the animal he got from Mike Falcon, but he did have sulfurs that looked just like the ones you've posted. The sulfur look wasn't unique to just one wild-caught animal anyway, there were a lot of high-yellow kings caught around Tampa Bay back in the day.

Seems breeders haven't put that much effort into maintaining lines of nice normal floridana. Nice brooksi, Tampa kings, and Suwanee kings seems pretty hard to find these days. Maybe with all the morphs that have come out, there wasn't enough interest to justify keeping these around.

Maybe with all the morphs that have come out, there wasn't enough interest to justify keeping these around.

That what I have been saying over and over.

and that also why i was excited about my triple het Peanut Butter X hypo X axanthic normals I just produced. All these came from brooksi that breeders used to select for the yellowest gene. Meaning the ORIGINAL MORPHS would never have been discovered if it was not for sib to sib breedings. I kept my lines pure (not outbred) and now I have the yellow normals that I have not seen in 14 years. Because I always bred the morphs back to another morph these genes were floating around in there like a time capsule.

I'll post some pics of the babies and maybe you (Lindasy)can understand what I mean. A lot of people mistook my post for saying the northern and souther floridana are different. These morphs have the yellow in from selective breeding. It just in the last decade people outbred them and the high yellow aspect. It has been 14 years since the hypo arrived on the scene, when the "ultimate" in yellow brooks was here there was no reason for breders to continue with normal high yello9ws so they scrapped the normal high yellow projects.
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I can't wait to see your tripple hets as they grow.
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11.14 L. getula californiae (Cal. King)
2.3 L. getula nigrita (MBK)
1.0 L. getula floridana (Brooksi)
1.0 Pantherophis guttatus guttatus (Corn)
0.1 Pituophis catenifer catenifer (Pacific gopher)
4.2 Elgaria multicarinata multicarinata - 14 eggs (Cal. Alligator Lizard)

THANKS! I can't either. I will update with pics soon since the ones I posted were in pre shed.
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