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HELP PLEASE!!!! HOG ISLAND W/ STAR GAZERS

EVA_43 Aug 19, 2003 07:48 AM

I went on Vacation a month and left my snakes with a friend to take care of.

When I got back all of the snakes were fine except one. The Hog Island Boa. My friend did not clean ANY of the cages and they may have been feed once or twice. Now the Hog Island Boa moves like twisting his body and curling up in circles. I am unsure if this is star gazers or something else. He was out of water when I got back and seems really small like he had not eaten much, but now he can not eat because he can not get to the food.

I am in Austin Texas with limited funds due to a VERY expensive vacation... can someone please help me? I will be at work till 5 and can do ANYTHING afterwards.

HELP!!!

Kim

Replies (3)

roger.s Aug 19, 2003 12:28 PM

as a first guess i would say its a nurolodgical problem possibly and i must state i am no vet but could guess at ibd.if so its fatal and there is no known cure.this is quite a common illness in pythons and boas..hopefuly im wrong and its somthing else.eaither way you are going to need veternary help to be sure.sorry i cant be more helpful and good luck...keep ya fingers crossed...
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Andy_G Aug 19, 2003 09:31 PM

Quarantine it immediately, take it to the vet and get it checked for IBD because that's what it sounds like. If it has IBD, euthanize it because no snake EVER recovers from IBD and it is a very painful thing to have for them so you may as well stop it from suffering. If it is IBD I am very sorry for your loss ahead of time.

oldherper Aug 19, 2003 10:40 PM

"Star-gazing" is a symptom of IBD. However, IBD is not the only thing that can cause neurological symptoms, such as you describe. Star gazing is when the snake holds it's head up in the air and appears to be looking skyward all or most of the time. Snakes with IBD will also often "stretch out" with their head up.

A short run-down on IBD. IBD is Inclusion Body Disease. It is caused by a retrovirus and is contagious. It is named Inclusion Body Disease because of cytoplasmic inclusion bodies found in various tissue cells of infected animals. In boas, the bodies can be found in the liver, kidneys, central nervous system, respiratory systems and digestive tract. Boas tend to exhibit a range of symptoms from CNS disorder to regurgitation and respiratory illness. Some infected boas may be asymptomatic carriers. The disease tends to take longer to kill symptomatic boas that it does pythons. Pythons tend to exhibit CNS disorder, but not the other symptoms seen in boas. However, secondary bacterial infection is usually seen in pythons, in the form of stomatitis and esophogeal and tracheal lesions. As stated above, it is invariably fatal and there is no treatment at this time. In cases identified as IBD, euthanasia is indicated.

Some other things that can cause the symptoms you describe are:

1. Head trauma

2.temperature extremes

3. exposure to certain toxins

4. herpesvirus

5. meningitis

6. Ophidian Paramyxovirus (also contagious, invariably fatal and incurable.

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