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Need help identifying morph....

mark_krabbe Jul 25, 2007 08:28 AM

This was the best shot i was able to get, pretty hard to capture their true colors, i hatched out 1.3 of these, from albino x albino breeding, turned out the parents also were het. motley, and something else?
When these first hatched out they were alot whiter, so i first labelled them as snows, they hatched out 3-4 weeks ago and i don´t think they look much like snows anymore

Any ideas? Would appreciate any input.

Thanks

Mark

http://www.proreptilebreeders.eu

Replies (7)

fudrick Jul 25, 2007 11:12 AM

I'm not an expert but it looks like a motley creamsicle.

Mark_Krabbe Jul 25, 2007 11:58 AM

I have tried to search some pictures of creamcicles, they could look like them, but the clutch contained 4 of them out of 16 (25%) Would the creamcicle gene get expressed like that or would´nt they all get more or less creamcicle influence, as i cold read it´s a hybrid? The rest of the clutch is very different looking and looks like normal red amel corns.

Thanks

Mark

carol Jul 25, 2007 12:30 PM

It looks like a "late blooming amel". I've gotten a few of these from certain pairings over the years. They look like snows at birth with a little extra orange, then turn out looking like Amels within the first year.
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Carol Huddleston
www.lowbellyreptiles.com

DonSoderberg Jul 25, 2007 01:31 PM

I agree with Carol. Many years ago a guy in Vegas (who shall remain nameless) was breeding what she describes. At hatch, they look like a snow with a blush of color. Each shed, the color saturates. I'm guessing the snakes you got will be fully colored in the next few months. In fact, most of mine with that gene were actually more colorful than most amels at full maturity.

NOW, having said all that, watch for vanishing colors later. If this is a gene I use to have (slightly different from the aforementioned one), at about two to four year old, some of the color scales that run with the motley/stripe pattern will begin to neutralize. In other words, there will be patches that resemble a piebaldism, but they aren't nearly as random and appear to be more neutrally colored than stark white. Because they tend to coincide with the pattern for the most part, we can't call them pied nor calico. These are not like the infamous calico blister mutation. They end up looking like the calicos, but without the negative features of blister sores and shortened longevity. Mine were long-lived and very interesting. They originated from Mark and Kim Bell in Florida. I'm just now working to resurrect that line so I can prove they're not the calico blister animals.

Oh yeah. Some vendors in Daytona market the ones Carol describes as SUNRISE corns. I guess because they begin neutrally colored and slowly manifest color. Shrug?
South Mountain Reptiles

jyohe Jul 25, 2007 07:42 PM

it looks cool.......not the color of any of my or other motley amels I see here.......

cool.............breed 2 of them together......

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LOL...."a guy that shall remain nameless"........funny stuff.......

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DonSoderberg Jul 25, 2007 08:41 PM

LOL...."a guy that shall remain nameless"........funny stuff.......

Yeah, I wanted to be politically correct. grin
South Mountain Reptiles

Mark_Krabbe Jul 26, 2007 03:44 AM

I will keep them all back and try to breed them together, it will be interesting to see how they develop. They look more and more like the amel siblings, so i believe your theories, I just hope they keep some of that glowing orange color they got now.

Thanks

Mark

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