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LOL.....Tried to think of a title for this post to get anyone into hybrids to read this. Go to this posted thread in the Gecko Forum, and read the whole thing, this is a very heated debate between myself and a few others. But some very good opinions made.

MUST READ!!

http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=1357648,1357648

I briefly looked over the detractors statements, sorry, but there's no entertainment there.
Only one has even a grasp of the language and he believes that humans "breed" reptiles as in all you do is put them together and it happens...and that reptiles are capable of "rape"....WE don't breed anything; we simply place the animals together. THEY breed, and putting them in the same enclosure does not a successful breeding make. It would be nice for us if it worked that way, I'm sure that there'd be alot more Boelens, Naultinus, and Ploughshares Tortoises available!....Amazing how almost no one is curious to know if these geckos are more closely related that once believed...as we have found out recently with the various intercontinental python breedings...

I am strongly of the opinion that if it shouldn't happen, it won't. His opinion of "just because you can, doesn't mean you should" is diametrically opposed to mine therefore I don't believe that involving myself and my point of view over there would be of any more use than urinating up a rope

Humans and our movements and actions on this planet are just as much a part of the natural course of events as when a butterfly lights on a flower. Granted we don't live in harmony with the environment in many cases, but who are you with your little mind to say whether that's not part of the plan? I know how insignifigant I am....and I don't view the human race with the contempt that some do (i.e. "we already play god enough" I wonder who they "blame" when reptile naturally hybridize in the wild??......Good luck with your lizards, I am eager to see what the offspring look like.

Horridus

I didn't meant to imply you asked anyone (especially me) to get involved in the conversation over there. Just started typing....and the opinions flowed ....I think you did a good job making your opinions known, as did some of the others. I just am so tired of the same old concerns....I mean colubrids have been hybridized since the 70s!!! When's the genepool armeggedon going to happen??

>>I mean colubrids have been hybridized since the 70s!!!

Actually yellow rats and corns were hybridized as early as the '30s... lol. I have the citation if you are interested. Then of course Bechtel hybridized corns and yellows in the 50's, even before the first amel corns were produced.

dg

Actaully before Jesus walked the earth Al Gore created the first hybrid by having sex with the serpent and coined the phrase..
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"Yeah ya told me, and ya wrote it down too. But how the hell am I supposed to remember!"

I know of a project you are interested in.

It involves a live bearer / egg layer hybrid.

Easiest workable link seems to be in the sand boa group....

...old crappy pics of a male dumeril and a female albino burmese copulating.

Nothing happened.

But, I can get ANY snakes to breed.

The hard part is getting anythingfrom the breedings.

That is another story!!!!

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Thanks,

Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

I couldn't have said it better myself