So... if you breed two random thayeri. Is the offspring outcome also a toss up? I mean say you bred two MSP's does that pairing still mean you could get buckshin, msp, nevo...etc?
GOD BLESS
Chris
Captive Bred Reps BY: CHRIS FLOWERS
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So... if you breed two random thayeri. Is the offspring outcome also a toss up? I mean say you bred two MSP's does that pairing still mean you could get buckshin, msp, nevo...etc?
GOD BLESS
Chris
Captive Bred Reps BY: CHRIS FLOWERS
To some degree they will be a toss up. If you breed two MSP's you're more likely to get a clutch with more MSP's. If you breed two leonis you'll probably get more leonis. It depends on the parent snakes genetics as to what colors and saturation of colors you will get. But yes, you never quite know whats going to come out of those eggs.



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Vichris
"The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane"- Marcus Aurelius
I am with Chris G. you can still get some surprises but if you breed msp to msp you will get mostly msp's. I bred two applegates last year both leonis and got nothing but leonis. You just never know with these and what is in store.
I bred an intermediate and a leonis and had a toss up of half and half then she double clutched and threw all leonis the second round so it is just a big surprise. That is what makes them so addicting.
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Michelle 
All things bright and beautiful,
All creatures great and small,
All things wise and wonderful:
The Lord God made them all.
Grrrrr! Stop showing the white male! lol.
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5.5 Nuevo Leon Kings
1.3 Kunasir Island Rats
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0.1 Everglades Rats
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0.1 Amelanistic Corn
Sorry Craig,
I forgot our deal don't mention or show the white male...lol.
Where you been lately?
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Michelle 
All things bright and beautiful,
All creatures great and small,
All things wise and wonderful:
The Lord God made them all.
Thanks alot everyone, so whos goin to sell me a pair of breeders so I can start my own varible project? LOL 
GOD BLESS
CHRIS
Captive Bred Reps BY: CHRIS FLOWERS
Well I don't know of any breeders for sale, but will have some babies soon. I think Garcia and Millspaugh have some now.
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Michelle 
All things bright and beautiful,
All creatures great and small,
All things wise and wonderful:
The Lord God made them all.
Like everyone says it is pretty much a crap shoot, but thats what makes Thayeri great. I had three clutches this year. The first one was leonis to leonis. Only three hatched out, but all three were leonis. The second clutch was msp to leonis, and I got four msp, and four leonis. The third was another leonis to leonis, and again I got four msp, and four leonis so there's really no telling what you'll get, but I think that's the best part about them.
Ken

Thanks for the comments and repiles, I found a pair from Adam so looks like I'll be enjoying all the possibliies next summer/
God Bless
Chris
Captive Bred Reps BY:Chris Flowers
Congratulations! Glad you got a pair, I have seen the ones you are getting from Adam and they are very nice. Can't wait to see what you produce next year. You will really enjoy them.
Don't forget to post pic's,
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Michelle 
All things bright and beautiful,
All creatures great and small,
All things wise and wonderful:
The Lord God made them all.
Hey Chris, I saw this picture on your website. What the heck is it? The white parts make it look albino, but there is black and it has black eyes. Do Ball Pythons have a Paradox Albino gene?
Thanks!
Congrats on picking up that pair from Adam, by the way! 
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Aubrey Ross
Yes its a paradox... whos is it... I dont remember, where I even got the pic... sorry I'm not much help. I think I got it off the Ball Python forum check there or post that pic there and see if ya can get more info.
Captive Bred Reps BY:CHRIS FLOWERS
Wow, I bet that thing costs a pretty penny! I'm not big into Balls but that thing looks pretty cool. Thanks for the info! 
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Aubrey Ross
Did you get the leonis pair?
I'm glad you found what you were looking for. Welcome to our addiction 
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Vichris
"The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane"- Marcus Aurelius
Ya the Leonis pair. And ya know it wont be long till I'll have to have a MSP Pair 
God Bless
Chris
Captive Bred Reps BY: CHRIS FLOWERS
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