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Bob Clark's Leucistic Burm? I heard he had sold it to a rich man in China for like $100,000 and then the guy ate it, is that true? If not what did happen to it? I know it was sterile, and I heard there have only been two of these, is that true?
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-Jasmine

1.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boas
(Mercutio and Kajika)

Jasmine there are all sorts of rumors of that snake being eating here or there.. the truth is it was sold to a private collector in Japan for a large (undisclosed) sum. The man did not eat it. Many sources say the animal is now dead..

The eating thing came from a joke about using the burm for some "home remedy" for making men sterile that was posted in a book. The rumors started flying. There are lots of people in this hobby that like to gossip.. so before you knew it, the story grew to someone serving the animal at a upity wedding..

There are 2 confirmed that I know of.. and rumors of lots more.. I don't follow the burm world much, so who knows.. some of the rumors may be true.

>>Bob Clark's Leucistic Burm? I heard he had sold it to a rich man in China for like $100,000 and then the guy ate it, is that true? If not what did happen to it? I know it was sterile, and I heard there have only been two of these, is that true?
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>>1.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boas
>>(Mercutio and Kajika)
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my friend just captured a tree frog around his work and asks me some info about it. I did catch your post with Jasmine I think about a link about some info though. He is wanting to prolly buy a couple of more tree frogs and wants to know

1-where to buy from?
2-can multiple species live together (red-eye and the other eye lol)
3-what size vivarium is a must for multiple say 5?
4-how to set up an easy temp gradient for them (I don't know their temps needed though but he should at least) but how do you supply a little warmth without the dry heat and he does have a piece of glass over the tank right now

thanks
Bob

Hey Bob -
Are you asking about care for the WC frog he has? or for something he wants to get?

There are alot of different treefrogs, and many of them need different care. So, to set a tank up correctly, you will need to have a species in mind (or atleast a region.. tropical, woodland, a dry/rocky areas etc.. ).

As for buying them, again, sort of depends on what your friend is looking for. Some species can be pretty hardy and WC animals are ok (green tree frogs, gray treefrogs, copes, whites, etc.. ) while others do not import well (most of the tropical species) and should be bought as CB from a breeder.

So, if your friend can narrow it down a bit, I can help with care and where to get one.

>>1-where to buy from?
Depends on the species..

>>2-can multiple species live together (red-eye and the other eye lol)
again, sort of depends on the species. Many tree frogs require different care - for example if you put an indian sand boa in a tank with a brb, one of them would have issues because of the husbandry. Same w/ frogs. The second problem you will encounter mixing species, many frogs will eat frogs. So, if there is a size difference, the smaller will become dinner. The third problem, cross breeding, and the ethical issues there. So, in short, yes, you can mix them, but you have to be careful on how you do it, and which species you use.

>>3-what size vivarium is a must for multiple say 5?
again, which species? 5 clown tree frogs or Phyllomedusa hypochondrialis can live in a 29gallon with no problem, 5 Phyllomedusa bicolor would be crowded in a 110xtra high. With treefrogs, taller is always better...

>>4-how to set up an easy temp gradient for them (I don't know their temps needed though but he should at least) but how do you supply a little warmth without the dry heat and he does have a piece of glass over the tank right now

again, varies greatly with species. Treefrogs will range from needing mild and humidity climate (75degrees and 80% humidity) to warm and dry (95 degrees and 50% humidity). It really depends on the species. Most tree frogs don't need a gradient though. There are a few of Phyllomedusa species that bask - but for the most part, constant temps are fine. For my frog vivs, I usually don't heat them at all, but most of the species I work with do fine in the 75degree range. I use lights for plants only, and if they create heat, I support them above the tank so it doesn't heat the tank to much.

Anyway, let me know what type of frog it is, and I can get you specific care for it. If he found it in the wild though, odds are the care sheet for a green tree frog here would provide the correct conditions.
amphibiancare.com/frogs/caresheets/greentreefrog.html

If you are having trouble getting an id on the frog, get me a pic if you can. If not, let me know what part of the US it was found in. There aren't a lot of treefrogs in the US, so it shouldn't be hard to ID.

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>>Bob
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I forgot to mention it was a tree frog and he was interested in some other tropical ones like red-eyes, my bad when I thought I posted he had a glass over the top of the tank I thought you would know it was tropical but nonetheless my bad and thanks for the response Tim
Bob

>>I forgot to mention it was a tree frog and he was interested in some other tropical ones like red-eyes, my bad when I thought I posted he had a glass over the top of the tank I thought you would know it was tropical but nonetheless my bad and thanks for the response Tim
>>Bob

Bob... there are several tree frogs that he could have.. without knowing which species, I can't offer much help.

As for mixing the one he caught with a tropical frog, I would not recommend it. He can easily setup 2 tanks though.. one for a native treefrog and one for a tropical species..
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take some pics this weekend for you
Bob

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Thanks,

Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

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Thanks,

Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research