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colors of veilds

beardieboyh14 Aug 19, 2003 10:55 AM

any one have pictures of the different color morphs i have seen green and i seen slighly blue
but never like a yello or a orange but i have herd of them any morphs you can show me i would like to make them into posters cause for my room with has been compleatly lizerdized

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eric adrignola Aug 19, 2003 11:06 AM

there are no distinct "morphs" in veilds. Veilds all have a basic color, and pattern. They are green, brown, orange, blue, yellow white, and black. The yellow forms vertical bands, the blue usually spots, everything else is variable. Some veilds have a blusih background color, some have green. Some have a lot of brown, and look maroon. SOme, have more orange on them than others, so they're called sunburst.
It's not like in panthers, where distinct populations have a definative difference in coloration.
In Jackson's, people often call some of them "red phase". Well, they are simply mutations, leading to different colorations. Such variation is actually very interesting, as nearly ALL jacksonii are decended from a dozen or so individuals released in HAwaii a while back...

beardieboyh14 Aug 19, 2003 11:20 AM

well then there are morphs
sunbust is a morph i would say
isnt that like going on both sides im connfused on where you stand
you said there are no morphs?
yet som are blue some are orange??
that was my questio if any one had baby s or the different color variations and also adults so i can see

eric adrignola Aug 19, 2003 11:42 AM

When I hear morphs, I think distinct color variations, like a blue panther, or a red panther, etc. Veilds are all basically the same, it's just that people have bred them for different colors. Some lines are more blue, some are more yellow, others more orange. The variation is VERY subtle. It's not so much as a Blue morph veild vs a yellow morph, it's a high-yellow veild and a high-blue, and a high-orange(sunburst).

you can have a pic of a veild that has a lot of blue, as well as a pic of one that has a lot of yellow, or orange, but to call them morphs is a bit of a streach.

Here, for example, is my veild. This was taken under yellowish lighting, with a cheap digital camera...

beardieboyh14 Aug 19, 2003 11:48 AM

wow that ones really orange
i have seen them though when they are in sted of a green as babys they area blue and had orange markings it was really gorgious but not for sale and i didnt have a camera at the show

eric adrignola Aug 19, 2003 11:56 AM

He has lots of all the colors, so he's high blue, yellow, and orange. You can find veilds with disproportionally moreof one color than another, but they ALL have the same colors, it's the amounts that differ. Panther morphs have different colors altogether.

Some people refer to the different veilds as morphs, it is convienient for marketing, so people have an idea as towhat color the parents showed.

I'm sorry to sound confusing, but it really is just because there is no ddistinct definition of a "morph" and I think the term is thrown around a bit too much and used to liberally, to the result of much confusion.

I guess it's me beingg a zoologist, I look at things at the populational level, and the evolutionary level, adn I see people taking an animal, breeding it to creat individuals with more distinct variation in coloration, and selling them as "morphs". It leads people to think they come from distinct population, and the yellow ones are "differnt" from the blue ones.

Basically, this is what it leads too...

I have seen MANY people ask weather it's ok to CROSS breed
Sunburst veilds with turquoise blue veilds! They have been given the impression that they are distinct species!

Ok, I'm a zoologist, which means I am more of a nerd (when it comes to the particularities of these things) than most people. I'm entitled to it, I earned my degree. I apologize for the rant...I'll go back to work now.
I hope I was able to de-confuse you.

beardieboyh14 Aug 19, 2003 12:00 PM

i want your job
i wana be one when im older
no i wasnt confuse d about that but you sadi no morphs but then you said they were color variations i thought it was the same thing it wasnt you who confse dme it was me and i must change my question

does any one have pictures of veilds with more blue,orange,or another color then usual?
like the picture posted has more orange?
im looking for one thats a baby and shows this color though

wALDOsLACK Aug 21, 2003 12:33 AM

My young male just went through his 3rd or 4th molt. Now he's starting to show orange bands. He didn't show this before the last molt. Didn't know it would be this way. Kinda neat.

Does that mean his color will get progressivly brighter with each successive molt?

Ww

reptayls Aug 19, 2003 12:21 PM

Here is one of our sunburst males...
Reptayls, Ltd.

beardieboyh14 Aug 19, 2003 12:45 PM

how come her looks so large?

reptayls Aug 20, 2003 01:44 AM

>>how come her looks so large?

Hi there,
Well, he is kinda big.....

And here is one of our other male breeders.
Morgana - Reptayls, Ltd.

wALDOsLACK Aug 21, 2003 12:08 AM

I love that sunburst male, actually both of them have excellent coloration. Ya know, that's the first image I've seen of a true sunburst orange male. Beautiful creature!

Ww

second_hand_rose Aug 21, 2003 02:16 AM

I was in a pet store the other day and they have several babys that they hatched in the store for sale right now. Almost all of the babys were just a light limey type green...

a few had whiteish spots on them as well but this one that I'm pretty sure was green like the rest when I was first admireing them went onto a diff plant and then took on this blueish color with darker spots (a pale browny color) and it had quite a few as compared to the others with only 2- 4 whiteish spots on them.

I think it just depends on what they're on, I could be wrong though as I'm not an expert by any means. But I'm going to the same store tomorrow to get crix and granted that they havent sold it yet I'll check to see if its still there and blue..

I'll ask if it was sold just to see if it was always that color.

Hope this helps???

Christa

gomezvi Aug 19, 2003 01:06 PM

Here's a picture of my veiled. Just an ordinary veiled.

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wALDOsLACK Aug 21, 2003 12:14 AM

Still a pretty cham. Hey, he's got nice color for such an "ordinary" one. Being sarcastic...

Nuthin to belittle there...

Ww

rkreptiles Aug 19, 2003 03:32 PM

Here are a few pictures of different Color Variations we have had. There is High Yellow, Sunburst X Blue, & High Blue.




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eric adrignola Aug 19, 2003 03:40 PM

I can't wait to cross THOSE with this:

jcunitz Aug 19, 2003 08:41 PM

i have no idea what cross or morph he is, but here he is........

wALDOsLACK Aug 21, 2003 12:25 AM

The guy in the middle is different. I like the mostly yellow look. Pretty nice coleration if you ask me. Very unique.

Ww

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