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Do It Yourself Cage plans and decor

littlefilly Jul 28, 2007 02:25 AM

Does anyone know where I can get free plans on how to build a cage/enclosure/habitat and a list of the supplies that will be needed for my new bearded dragon Zypsy? I have her in a 29 gallon tank right now but would like to build her a larger enclosure. She is about 11 1/2 inches long right now but I really want to build her new home before she outgrows( if she hasn't already) her tank.

What type of decorations do you use in your enclosures? My mom brought me some driftwood from the river but I am affraid to put it in there. I soaked it for about an hour maybe less in bleach water. I also read you should bake it but couldn't find for how long or at what temperature.

What type of supplements do you use? I am only using Cricket Dust once a day on her crickets. she also gets greens, carrot occasonally, fruit and hybiscus petals(as a treat).

Thanks in Advance for all Your Help,

Replies (10)

BDlvr Jul 28, 2007 07:01 AM

Sorry. I can't help you on the do it yourself plans. I've never seen any out there. Maybe someone else has. It's really time to move her to a larger home now though.

I think if you bleached the driftwood for close to an hour it will be fine. I'd just soak it in plain water for a while to get as much of the bleach that absorbed into the wood out as possible. Then let it dry out fully. People say to bake in the oven at 200 or 250 for a couple hours. I have never done this, always just used bleach like you did.

I use the RepCal Calcium w/D3 on the crickets every meal but one a week where I use the RepCal Herptivite multivitamin. I feel these are the best products out there for dragons. Your dragon should be eating crickets 2 meals a day. Crickets shouldn't be left in overnight.

Here's a great nutrition list for salads.

http://www.beautifuldragons.503xtreme.com/Nutrition.html

Are you supplying UVB?

Are your hot side temps. 105-110 and cool side low 80's?

littlefilly Jul 28, 2007 05:19 PM

I feed her crickets 2 to 3 times a day and I use a Pwersun UV self-ballasted mercury vapor flood lamp 160W.
I am getting a 75 gallon tank for her sometime next week. I would just like to find plans to build her one.

Thanks for the information.

highendreptiles Jul 29, 2007 12:36 AM

Hey BDLvr what kind of flourescent bulb do you use? I am asking to get an idea on how much D3 I should give to my dragons.
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BDlvr Jul 29, 2007 04:28 AM

I use all Zoo Med Reptisun 10.0's now. Just be careful that the bulbs are not too close to your dragon. I had to rework my new setup from my original prototype to move the bulbs farther away as my dragons were experiencing some eye discomfort. I know that Zoo Med is aware of this phenomenon and is testing this.

PHLdyPayne Jul 28, 2007 01:46 PM

I haven't come across any 'free' do it yourself cage building plans/sites. There have been some articles on building cages in various Reptile Magazines. Might be able to find the articles on their website. If not the articles themselves, then at least, which issues they appeared in.

Searching the Enclosure forum and searching various forums will bring up people's posts on building cages. Though you are bound to find cages for all kinds of animals, the basic principals and steps will be the same. Just remember the minimum size you need for bearded dragons is 4'x2' of floor space with height between 18"-24" if you plan to use florescent tube style UVB bulbs. If you are going for mercury vapor bulbs, then make the height no less than 24" (could go as high as 30" but to me, that would be more wasted space....)

The way I have designed my cages are pretty simple. As I suck as a carpenter and don't have access to any 'cool' tools. (ie a router, skill saw/table saw, etc.) I only have a power drill and a hand saw.

Thus...I drew out the basic layout of my cage on graph paper (graph paper isn't needed, but it certainly makes it easier to ensure everything is square, and the grid can be used to represent feet, or each square can be quarter foot..etc) Or you can just use a ruler and measure out dimensions such as one inch = one foot...and go from there.

Basically, you are making a 5 sided rectangular box. The sixth side will be the door. I design my cages to be 5'x2'x2' in size (I like giving my dragons extra space). Thus, you need the following sizes of wood cut:

5'x2 - 3 of these (top, bottom, back of cage)

2'x2' special - 2 of these (left and right side)

Note to make though. Because wood has a thickness...the end 'caps' will actually be larger than 2 feet square.

THus, if you are using 1/4" plywood (or melamine/particle board/pressed board/hard board...stuff has more names than anything, basically sawdust with glue, covered in a vinyl coating), the two end pieces will need to be 1/4" longer on all dimensions (thus 2' 1/2" x 2' 1/2" you have to add the quarter inch on both left and right sides, and top and bottom sides of the end caps, which gives you the half inch (two quarters of an inch added together, equals a half inch)

As I have no power tools to cut sheets of wood (not to mention not owning a truck) I had the hardware store do my cuts for me. IT takes them about 5 minutes to do it...much better to get them to do all the work.

I pre drill all my holes. Much easier to screw the cage together.

Just make sure your drill bit isn't wider than the width of the screw shaft..else it won't hold. It is better for the drill bit to be a bit smaller...the screw will bit in better.

For the door, I just built a frame out of 1"x4" boards, stapled an aluminum screen over it with spare trimming.

The screen on the doors will allow heat to escape but not as much as on the top. Vents can instead be cut on the sides the glass sliding doors can be used instead. But I don't particularly like glass doors, too easy for stuff to get into the tracks, etc. But, because my apartment rarely drops below 73F at night, even in the winter...the screen door shouldn't present a problem with temps, even during the night.

For light fixtures, I bought a standard shop double bulb fixture for UVB lights, 4 feet long (thus, it covers nearly the total length of the cage...and still fits in). I bought the one that already has a plug, as opposed to the kind you wire directly to your household power. I also bought a ceramic flat fixture for the heating bulb (basically the plain kind you find often in basements..which don't have any pretty glass 'bowls' to cover the naked bulb). I drill holes for the basking light fixture, so I can mount it directly inside the cage, and have the wires outside through the hole (I just hand wire to a double cord, with a plug at the other end. Use electrical tape to cover screws and secure the wires, or attach a 'cage' around the back of the fixture (those ugly steel boxes you see all over the electrical section of a home hardware store). Follow instructions in the box that comes with the fixture.

The florescent fixture I suspend from the inside using the Eye hooks it comes with. Hook the chain so the fixture is low enough over the basking area to expose your dragon to UVB light, but height enough he can't jump up at it. Typically for a two foot high tank, 6-8" from the top of the fixture to the underside of the top of the tank, is good. Height of the basking spot itself, will determine exactly how low the fixture needs to be.

For florescent bulbs, I use one Reptiglo/repti-sun UVB 8.0 (or 10.0 if you have them available) and one full spectrum plant tube (you can find these at the hardware store, the UVB light will have to be ordered online or picked up at your nearest pet store or reptile show). The full spectrum is mostly to give additional UVA (it may put out really low levels of UVB but not enough to be worth using this light exclusively for the health of your dragon) and just plain light, to keep the rest of the cage fully light during the day. A hole can be drilled through the top of the cage, or side, for the plug of the florescent light to be pulled through.

Both lights I plug into a power strip, then plug the power strip into a heavy duty indoor timer (usually because power strips using 3-prong plugs and only the heavy duty indoor timers have three prong outlets in them. If you don't want to go with the power strip, you can use a typical extension cord with 2-3 outlets, and plug that into a normal indoor timer).

As I use plastic table cloth for my substrate, I don't worry about sand getting out of the cage, so i didn't worry about creating a 'sand barrier' at the bottom of the cage. If you plan to use sand, then build a 2-6" 'foot' along the bottom of the cage, then set your door to fit in the remaining space.

Important tips. Measure twice, cut once.

Don't forget the thickness of the wood for the end pieces.
Seal the cracks inside the cage, once finished, to prevent stuff getting into the cracks and thus, becoming a haven for bacteria (or even mites, if they should get into your collection) to grow.

Build a mock up in basel wood or scrap wood,if you are not sure how to get everything together. Scale models are fun to build
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PHLdyPayne

BDlvr Jul 28, 2007 03:33 PM

I think you mean 3/4" plywood. Melamine only comes 3/4" thick. 1/4" would be very flexible in a 5' piece. 1/4" plywood is called Luan and is usually only for use under a laminate floor.

The best part about a 5' x 2' is the temperature gradient due to the extra distance from the hot side.

PHLdyPayne Jul 28, 2007 06:59 PM

Right, I didn't mean 1/4" plywood... (actually that is what I use, but i built mine differently than I described..built a frame first, out of 2"x2" boards, and screwed the plywood to it...makes a much lighter cage...but takes about 4 times as long..if not longer...having to seal and paint all the wood...much more to cut and screw together etc....)

1/2-3/4" thickness would be needed with the melamine. It doesn't come any thinner than a half inch (or maybe it is 3/4"....most times they give a measurement but if you actually measure it, it is actually less than what they say, most likely rounded up...annoying that). The top and bottom piece would probably be best at 3/4" or even 1" thick, as these are the long pieces and bear the most stress....the back and ends can be thinner...

The only real draw back I see in using Melamine was the weight...there was no way in heck i would be able to lift a 5'x2'x2' cage made out of melamine...as I wanted to stack three cages on top of each other...hence why I went with the plywood/frame design. I can actually lift the cages up alone...not very well but sufficiently enough I Can stack them without killing myself.
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PHLdyPayne

BDlvr Jul 28, 2007 07:17 PM

Well, I own a construction/renovations company so I can tell you with authority. Melanine is 3/4" and that is the actual thickness. I don't know if you could special order it thinner but I highly doubt it. The particle board used in Melamine board is brittle and would be too fragile thinner. Plywood is sold by actual size but what we call 3/4 is 23/32 but is actually sold that way and 1/2 is 15/32 and 5/8 is 19/32.

I stacked 3 cages as I'm sure you've seen the pics. of my new setup. But a 5' x 3.5' takes 200 lbs. of sand and with the basking spot etc. I'll bet each cage weighs close to 400 lbs.

PHLdyPayne Jul 29, 2007 09:52 AM

from the wonderful look of your cages, I knew you had to be at least a skilled hobbyist in the carpentry trade, or an actual construction/tradesman.

3/4" thickness of malamine does make sense, as I don't recall ever seeing it thinner. Being sawdust and glue, I certainly can see it loosing alot of strength if too thin. Heck, even at 3/4" if you hit it wrong, it can chip and tear easily (ie trying to hammer anything into it, or not pre-drilling holes first). Not to mention it soaks up water like a sponge, should it get too wet or water hits un-vinyled areas.

At a potential of 400 pounds for a 5'x 2' x 2' cage...you can see why I went the long way...if I had my own house..I could have always rigged up a pulley system to get the cages stacked, or invited over a few of my friends...but with the lighter cages, my friends and family will thank me in the future when I do end up moving again.

Sometimes it is a real pain being a out of shape female LOL Actually, it is always a pain to be out of shape...next major task on my personal health agenda. the first one was quitting smoking and so far that has worked quite well.
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PHLdyPayne

eminart Jul 28, 2007 07:22 PM

They have a simple plan for a decent enclosure here:

http://www.timelessspirit.com/enclosure.html

That seems to be the one most commonly mentioned on the web. There's also another one here which is similar:

www.freewebs.com/crossfireenclosures/
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