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I received this pic from a friend and we have been wondering about the subspecies. I initially thought about dixoni, but not entirely sure because I have seen animals with that coloration in the southern Mexico state, where apparently is outside of dixoni's range. This particular animal came from Puebla, but it's not campbelli obviously. Sooooo.... what do you think?

WHAT COULD IT BE?

Thanks in advance
Chuck

To me, it looks like an aberrant pueblan milk, with a heavy amount of black.
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Genesis 1:1

Ditto...aberrant campbelli.
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That snake looks a LOT like the true L.t.arcifera, which to date have been the ones that Bob Applegate collected at the north end of Lake Chapala. Do you know where at in Puebla this snake was found?

Thanks,
Scott

I have produced many campbelli just like that over the years. Its body is shaped excatly like a campbelli outherwise I would say its a lake chapala milk (arcifera) but its to stout and short.The arcifera are more slender and almosy have the body of a coral.

Shannon

arcifera x campbelli.though i've never seen or heard specifically of them integrating,it would make sense geographically and that specimen seems to show traits of both;nice looking!
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"with head raised regally,and gazing at me with lidless eyes,he seemed to question with flicks of his long forked tongue my right to trespass on his territory" Carl Kauffeld

Chuck "the snake man" from MD used to have a big"nelsonix pueblani"(his words)that he tried to reproduce like that. It was like 20 years old, so long before all the hybridization as snakes just werent that available back then. I think it took him several generations to do it but he got some that had similar(though never as good)patterns. So I would guess NELSONI.Jeff

lol he told me those were just nelsoni.and yes they did look a lot like the one pictured.....too bad,i'm guessing it may have *ahem* 'varied from day to day'.
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"with head raised regally,and gazing at me with lidless eyes,he seemed to question with flicks of his long forked tongue my right to trespass on his territory" Carl Kauffeld