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Paradox Albino Boa just born

brd Jul 28, 2007 09:02 PM

This girl was just born on 7-25-07 and the pics I have on my site were taken when she was just two days old. So these are pre shed and the umbilical cord is still there. I am hoping there is a link here to view the pics I have. I tried to post pics here and I can't seem to figure it out. I have never seen a Paradox Albino Boa that looks like this one. She could even be a Paradox Sunglow since there was albinos and sunglows in the litter. She even has two different colored eyes. Her left eye is albino and her right eye is a more normal appearing eye. I am going to raise her up and try to breed her and see what happens. I know the whole Paradox thing is kind of funny. Some people can produce more and some people can't. Any way I think she is too neet to sell, so I will try to breed her one day. If no link shows up just go to my site www.boarama.com and you can see pics of her there. I hope everyone enjoys the pics.
Thanks, Brian
Paradox Albino Redtail Boa

Replies (16)

vision Jul 28, 2007 10:23 PM

As the one who came up with the name "Paradox Boa", I must say that a true "Paradox" boa is a Kahl albino with 25% Surinam mixed in that has black specs all over it.

I guess the name is now being used more "frivolously" these days

That first Paradox boa was smokin' looking and can be seen on the cover of a now very old Vivarium mag.

vision Jul 28, 2007 10:37 PM

Oh yea, and there are some great pics of it in Vin Russo's new Boa book, which I must say is a must read for any Boa breeder.

Sojourner Jul 28, 2007 10:56 PM

A paradox is anything that is which should not be.... Like an albino with black speckles.

Jesse
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vision Jul 28, 2007 11:50 PM

Yes, but I coined the term "Paradox Boa" for something very specific.

bahreptiles Jul 29, 2007 12:37 AM

classically recognized appearance. In my OWN opinion there have been other paradox albinos produced that are not of the typically recognized or classically appearing type. I do think some of these should be classed a bit differently. As to what class? I don't know. Anyone have thoughts about this?
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Sojourner Jul 29, 2007 10:04 AM

Are these your words.....

"This outrageous female was produced from my double het. for Snow boas in 1999. I am not sure what to call her or even what she is?? She has now become my "Prized Boa". I'm hoping to breed her in 2003 to see if her "look" is genetic. Notice the left eye (as facing) is pink ( albino ) and the right eye is gray ( anerythristic )!......she seems to be expressing both the anery and albino gene?????.........on a SNOW body!.........Her tongue is even two toned!! She was born in a litter that had 3 Snows plus her!!"

If I put in the words "the paradox boa" in a search, that is what I come up with. I could find no reference to this animal being 25% suri.

If you are Ralph, or if you're not, you can not have exclusive rights to a specific descriptive term. Yours may have been the first, possibly even the best, but not the only.

Prove it genetic, and call it your line of paradox. With all the rest of the people which have produced them by this point, that's the best you will get.

I would love to see some pics of yours if it is not "the paradox boa" referred to above. Thanks!

Jesse

Jesse
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vision Jul 29, 2007 11:35 AM

The original "Paradox Boa" was created and named before Ralph's animal was created.

Pictures of the original animal (which was 25% Surinam and has a little black hitler mustache) are on the cover of an old Vivarium mag and there are a couple pics of the snake in Vin Russo's new Boa book.

The animal was sold to Tracy and I think she breeder loaned it out to somebody who I believe ended up killing it.

sun_king Jul 29, 2007 12:31 AM

Sounds to me like someone has their panties in a wad. I agree with Sojourner on this one. It seems that we are toooo caught uop in this. Remember people this is a hobby that we have a passion for and we should all enjoy what we are doing without getting upset b/c of something like a name being attached to a snake that is not 25% Suri with black speckling.....No offense intended here people.

Joe

vision Jul 29, 2007 11:39 AM

I really couldn't care less, I was just pointing out that the name "Paradox" appears to have been messed with to the point that it has become almost meaningless.

jonathan-m Jul 29, 2007 04:36 PM

How has it become meaningless? A paradox, by definition, is something that contradicts itself.

Every boa that is amelinistic, yet displays melanin fits within that definition does it not? I'm sorry, but I'm failing to see what your argument is here.

Jon

patoquack Jul 29, 2007 02:28 AM

I just did a quick search in the forums and found "paradox" being used with Ball Pythons, kenyan sand boas, cornsnakes and Geckos since 2003 (as far back as I could search).
I'm guessing the word "paradox" has been around for a long time (Latin and Greek orgins according to Webster).

I'm not claiming anything though.. just wanted to offer the results of my quick research.

Patrick

Sun_King Jul 29, 2007 03:16 AM

Good research there. I was sure somebody in the herp biz by now would have trademarked it. Haaaaaaaaaa

Joe

vision Jul 30, 2007 02:56 PM

That is interesting.

To the best of my knowledge, we were the first ones to use "paradox" for any type of herp morph.

I guess I should have trademarked it, or something.

We came up with that name way before everyone started going nuts with all the different morph names.

DZBReptiles Jul 31, 2007 01:15 PM

thunder and taking the excitement out of producing such an awesome animal. What ever happened to "Congratulations and Great Job"? By the way I coined that phase, but feel free to use it. Or not.

Jeff

Sojourner Jul 29, 2007 10:06 AM

Nice paradox!
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DZBReptiles Jul 31, 2007 01:09 PM

great job Brian. Having seen her in person I can tell you that she is one sweet piece of eye candy. Can't wait to see how she starts to color up over time. And hey stop stairing at her, she'll get a complex!

Jeff

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