I saw it on here before but I dont remember and doing a search of the forum has turned up nothing. Thanks in advance 
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I saw it on here before but I dont remember and doing a search of the forum has turned up nothing. Thanks in advance 
Super Cinnamon is the Brown Ball and The Super Black Pastels is the Black Ball . So breed a male and female Black Pastel and you should get your Back Ball. David of DS Reptile Rescue
Has anyone produced one that has a desent noise. I think everyone i have seen has had a pinched snout. Some even have a peanut head. We need to out cross these alot more or get some new blood into them. I would love to see a Good Picture of a Super Cinny or a Super Black Pastel. Don't get me wrong I still like these Blk-P and Cinns. As all the other crosses look great.
Greg VanZweden
http://www.vanzwedenreptiles.com/
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I agree from what I have heard most are born with deformities and or don’t survive , it has something to do with the genes being week . But that is just what I heard . David of DS Reptile Rescue
its a super cinny or a super black pastel.
Raise it up to believe that Ralphs clutch 59 was truly immaculate conception..and that one day the son of neo will return for him. 
Seriously though...That would be a super black pastel(That's the only way,so far.).
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Charles Glaspie
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