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It looks like my first snake is going to be a ball python, not a rainbow boa.

But that's because I've given in and decided to get two! I'll be getting the ball this week, and once it's all settled in I'll be picking up a rainbow. Probably a Brazilian, I'm pretty well sold on the patterning.

pet rock, I mean they have so many of them but I didn't ever imagine someone looking at rainbow boas and then settling on a ball cuz they are at the opposite ends of the spectrum in needs and looks IMO but whatever you get will make you happy. I guarantee you this though, as soon as you get a ball and then you get you a rainbow, you will no longer prolly want the ball unless you are keeping it as a display item out in the open. Though rainbows are not "watching t.v." with you kind of snakes the times you do take them out and admire them make up for the hiding and secret life they live in that hide of theirs. take care and best of luck. Later tonight I will post a pic of that rainbow that shed for you but I would have done it sooner but I haven't seen you post in awhile but look later on under this thread
Bob

You know, everybody here seems to think it's all in good fun, but I'm starting to get tired of people insulting other people's snakes. It's really not that funny.

I've decided I want a ball and a rainbow. I'm not going to stop liking the ball when I get the rainbow. They're different, of course they are, or I wouldn't have decided I wanted them BOTH. And I will enjoy owning them BOTH for different reasons.

don't worry about people here we just feel very strongly about our snakes. i know what you mean, that the insults get old, because they do especially me being one of the few CRB owners on the site...

but anyway congrats on your choice to get both i'm happy for you and know what you mean that you like them because they are different and that you like them for their differences. good luck with them both
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Tim

0.1 Colombian Rainbow Boa
1.0 Albino Motley Corn
1.0 Black cat

Just ignore them....

I too bought a ball python and a Brazilian rainbow, at the same time in my case. I still have the first ball python and love her as much as I did when I bought her. Well, i am a little disappointed in her as she didn't give me a clutch this year..oh well, still love her though and no plans to give her up.

My BRBs I really enjoy as well and am definitely glad to have them as well.

It is very much possible to enjoy more than one thing. Hence why so many of us reptile keepers keep so much more than one single kind of animal.

Proud owner of:

1:1 Brazilian rainbow boas
1:3:2 ball pythons
1:3:1 corn snakes
1:0 texas rat snake
0:1 bearded dragon
1:3:8 crested geckos
1:3 gargoyle geckos
1:1 northern blue tongue skinks
1:0 spade tailed agama

0:0:1 Mexican Red Rump (Brachypelma vagans) Tarantula
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PHLdyPayne

if you feel that way then that is your feelings on the subject. There is NEVER any insulting going on in this forum. Yeah we kid around with Scott about owning a CRB but I have chatted with and responded with Scott more times than you could imagine. Calling a ball a "pet rock" I did not coin the phrase so don't hate the player hate the game These snakes are just for different tastes as you can agree ex. balls are usually for beginners or people that don't want colubrids but want something kind of bigger. There is nothing prettier color wise than a zebra-line pastel, spinner ball, silver streak (oh yeah), albino piebald, honey bee etc. etc. I don't dog ball python owners in any way but people considering get a ball and/or rainbow is like comparing getting a bearded dragon to a chameleon requirement wise and this isn't to be taken out of context either like the last post cuz it's not like I responded to your post a couple of times last week and even took the camera out to get a pic for you oh no that wasn't me so being disrespectful and insulting is not in my arsenal but if you feel that way then pass the pipe and I'll take my turn Any animal that needs special needs has great rewards and that was how my post was to be interpreted but rainbows are not for everybody since a lot of people like snakes to be showpieces in the living room so to speak but I'm not going to reitterate myself any further as to defend myself but if I typed anything offensive than relax cuz that is not my purpose believe me but in the meantime congrats on your soon to be new addition and later on new addition take care now
Bob

The pet rock label isn't what annoyed me.

"I guarantee you this though, as soon as you get a ball and then you get you a rainbow, you will no longer prolly want the ball"

That's what annoyed me.

part of your decision for getting the ball right now? Hope you get a real nice pastel or other morph though seriously. Be sure to post pics of your ball when you get him/her. About my comment, it surely did come out wrong though so I do apologize for that but then again I have always had a way with words Most people are usually considering snakes that are similar in husbandry, size, temperment etc. etc.... but these two are damn near at the end of the spectrum of each other. I doubt it but if you still want that pic I'll go take it but if you don't no hard feelings
Bob

No, the opposite end of the spectrum from a ball python is an anaconda. *grin* Or so I hear tell.

Rainbows aren't too far off in size, though I am QUITE aware of the differences in husbandry and temperment. I've handled both, neonates and adults, and done extensive research on both.

I really can't see why I'd want to get two snakes that were almost the same. If they were almost the same I might as well save myself the bother and just pick one. It's the differences that made me decide I just had to have both.

Anyhow, if you really want to share photos, I always like looking at snakes. Heck, I even like looking at crazy things like reticulated pythons, and I don't think you could pay me to own one of those!

but I can't own one anytime soon cuz they grow up to be more than four handfuls lol My friend's 13 footer and 55 lbs is more than impressive enough for me but the irridescence is to absolutely to die for. I said different sizes but took into account not really the length part but more of the girth and weight of them and the mobility of a rainbow to slither and tag your a-- lol btw the those retics get around pretty good if I say so myself. Anacondas should be illegal cuz they are scary lol (I'm scared of them at least) What kind of ball are you planning on or is it up in the air and I'm about to take that pic for you
Bob

I want a Retic too

I kinda want a Male Green anaconda (dont get THAT big) just VERY STRONG!
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Russ
1.0 Basset Hound (Goofy)
1.0 Brazilian Rainbow Boa (Apollo)
1.0 Columbian Rainbow Boa (Odin)
1.0 Guyana Red-Tail Boa (Ares)
0.1 Pastel Salmon Boa (Minerva)
0.1 Rosy Boa (Athena)
1.1 Western Hognoses (???)

Melbourne, Fl

My rule of thumb - if it could eat the cats, I don't want it!

i allready own red-tails /shrug
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Russ
1.0 Basset Hound (Goofy)
1.0 Brazilian Rainbow Boa (Apollo)
1.0 Columbian Rainbow Boa (Odin)
1.0 Guyana Red-Tail Boa (Ares)
0.1 Pastel Salmon Boa (Minerva)
0.1 Rosy Boa (Athena)
1.1 Western Hognoses (???)

Melbourne, Fl

bigger cats lol I understand where you are coming from. We just adopted a 5 week year old black lab (now 8 weeks) and it walked by the cage of my 2 year old columbian only about 40 inches long and it struck like it could eat the damn thing so I totally understand
Bob

"I really can't see why I'd want to get two snakes that were almost the same. If they were almost the same I might as well save myself the bother and just pick one. It's the differences that made me decide I just had to have both."

That is it in a nut shell!! It comes down to what you want, and only you. Don't let it bug you if people don't agree with your decision. Pick the pets you are interested in, and enjoy them.
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photos.xtremecombatsports.com

but they seem not to have captured her crescent color and I couldn't mess with her cuz I fed her about 3 hours ago or I could ball her up a little and really show it off but I tried to move her but she went straight from under her log to her coconut so the shots are sucky but here they are

It looks like she thinks she's hidden just because her head's in the hide. One of my cats does that. She crouches down behind something three inches tall and sticks her head down, and thinks you can't see her now.

watched entirely too many cartoons what kind of ball are you gettiing btw?
Bob

Just a normal. Most of the morphs don't actually appeal to me, particularly not given the price. (Like spider, what on earth is with that? So... it's normal colored with narrow pattern bits. This is worth it being ten times the price of a normal? Why?) And the ones I really do like are DEFINITELY out of my price range! (Like leucistics and piebalds. If I had that kind of money I'd go buy something more exotic than a snake! I've always wanted a mountain lion...)

Anyhow, the local reptile place just got in a pair of baby normals, one of which is very nicely colored, lots of yellow and really good contrast, which I have my eye on. I've handled him a couple of times now and he's quite active and good natured, seems very healthy. He's been in shed, but should be all done by tomorrow or the day after, which is when I'll be going down to pick him up.

Normal ball pythons are just as pretty and interesting as all those high dollar morphs. No two pythons are the same, and that endless variety in normal coloration and pattern, is really what appeals to me with ball pythons.

These are all normal ball pythons

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PHLdyPayne

I really like the last two pics and the second pic has a cool pattern
Bob

The rainbow boas are cousin to the anaconda, they are very closly related!
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Russ
1.0 Basset Hound (Goofy)
1.0 Brazilian Rainbow Boa (Apollo)
1.0 Columbian Rainbow Boa (Odin)
1.0 Guyana Red-Tail Boa (Ares)
0.1 Pastel Salmon Boa (Minerva)
0.1 Rosy Boa (Athena)
1.1 Western Hognoses (???)

Melbourne, Fl

number of them to choose from, they are like potato chips be forewarned....some my pics aint so great it's a cell phone...I am not disappointed in you...

YOU NEED ONE OF THESE if you ask me !!!!

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Thanks,

Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

He he he. Nice snakes! The albino is lovely.

most people here pick on ball pythons, but they do appreciate the fact that some of them are quite nice.

BTW>>Blood pyhtons are nice to, the next step up from balls.....

wish my pics where better but it still gets the point across...

and any one who has a problem with that can deal with my cat...even he is not just an ordinary animal..

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Thanks,

Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

and I am really considering gettin a blood python. I don't like the body though cuz it is built like a ball but the head is nice though but I want either a red albino which is not in my price range or something dark like TimS black onyx pictured below oh yeah

Bob

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Thanks,

Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

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Thanks,

Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

Bally Pythons are so boring!!!!!!!

i hate it that 70% of the people that i talk to that have snakes, have a ballpython yuck!
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Russ
1.0 Basset Hound (Goofy)
1.0 Brazilian Rainbow Boa (Apollo)
1.0 Columbian Rainbow Boa (Odin)
1.0 Guyana Red-Tail Boa (Ares)
0.1 Pastel Salmon Boa (Minerva)
0.1 Rosy Boa (Athena)
1.1 Western Hognoses (???)

Melbourne, Fl

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You know, if you're kidding a "j/k" or or something would be nice, so I can tell.

If you're not kidding, go jump off a cliff.

haha,

i am only half kidding. I dont really enjoy the snake because it does seem boring to me, enless you get into morphs (but i dont have the money) but i do think their are some very pretty morphs out there. And i do understand that they make fantastic beginers boas (had my first snake (BP) at age 12) So my hats off to the breed to bringing a lot of people into the hobbby. But there are manny other more interesting, pretty snakes out there.

sorry to any BP lovers!
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Russ
1.0 Basset Hound (Goofy)
1.0 Brazilian Rainbow Boa (Apollo)
1.0 Columbian Rainbow Boa (Odin)
1.0 Guyana Red-Tail Boa (Ares)
0.1 Pastel Salmon Boa (Minerva)
0.1 Rosy Boa (Athena)
1.1 Western Hognoses (???)

Melbourne, Fl

- Very likely not to bite
- Very calm (good when getting wife/GF/child intrested in snakes)
- They do chill with you when you watch T.V.
- They have that puppy dog face (like the burms)
- Good size for any Herper not to big not to small
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Russ
1.0 Basset Hound (Goofy)
1.0 Brazilian Rainbow Boa (Apollo)
1.0 Columbian Rainbow Boa (Odin)
1.0 Guyana Red-Tail Boa (Ares)
0.1 Pastel Salmon Boa (Minerva)
0.1 Rosy Boa (Athena)
1.1 Western Hognoses (???)

Melbourne, Fl

I could never understand why people would think ball pythons are boring. SO they don't come in day glow colors (actually they do now...just look at the bubblegum or banana ball morphs.. but was mostly referring to wild type coloration. Can't think of any wild type snake that is in day glow colors...check out those Chondra's..) but their patterns are very interesting with colors ranging from very dark to very light, yellows, oranges, rich golden browns, chocolate browns and cinnamon browns..

They do like to hide but when they have secure hiding places, they come out exploring just as often as most of my other snakes (my BRB's are more active...but may be because they are also bottomless pits...and are always hungry. They come out looking for food every time I clean other cages around them, even if I just fed them a few days before, and I feed them medium to large rats..or sometimes several small adult rats...so they are not under fed).

Ball pythons are very popular snake pets...just like corn snakes and other colubrids...but for a nice python that is pretty, calm, nice girth that doesn't reach huge size, ball pythons are way up there in choices.

BRB I didn't really find all that much difficult to care for, just a bit more humidity and actually less heat than my ball pythons...and of course a bigger cage. They did quite well with me. Of course babies I would keep in much more humid conditions than I do adults, simply because they dehydrate so much faster.

When I have my ball pythons out, (well except for two yearlings...they are not as used to being handled as my older ball pythons), they are active, exploring and certainly don't sit still.. But then again I don't keep them out for very long.

Oh and with a ball python..I don't have to worry about it trying to tie up my hands like my BRB female likes to do...mostly because i don't want her to get into the couch where I may loose her.
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PHLdyPayne

Stephanie,
....Seems like a good choice to me. I do think you will probably get hooked and get other snakes fairly soon.
Jeff

>>It looks like my first snake is going to be a ball python, not a rainbow boa.
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>>But that's because I've given in and decided to get two! I'll be getting the ball this week, and once it's all settled in I'll be picking up a rainbow. Probably a Brazilian, I'm pretty well sold on the patterning.