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Brass Balls

Crotalus Jul 31, 2007 03:51 PM

Here is a new designer morph called the brass ball. It's a vanilla x black pastel that Chris and Shila McQuade from Gulf Coast Reptiles made. The pic doesn't really do it justice so if you are going to be in Daytona you can see it in person. The vanilla ball is unique in that it is a clean up gene. It's like a DMG, decreasing melanin gene. It makes pastels and ghosts look very bright. I'm hoping someday to see a vanilla pied or a vanilla clown. I hope you like the new morph.

Crot
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Replies (6)

GrotesqueBurgess Jul 31, 2007 05:23 PM

Eh, they look a lot like my normal ball pythons.
That's my one problem with ball python morphs, is that there are so many "morphs" that are just a tad bit away from being a normal.

What makes this one not normal? Normals come in light shades and dark shades. This one seems to just be a light shade. Maybe if I knew what I was supposed to be looking for, I might have a different opinion.
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~Sara~
1.2 ball pythons (Scorpio, Dayzee, and Satan)
1.0 Black-lined plated lizard (Lizzy Butt)
0.1 Burmese Python (Pixil)
1.0 Pacman Frog (Pudge)
5.2 Pet Rats (Emo, Skye, Siam, Lilac, Manson, Spade, and Zilk)
1.1 Dogs (Ozzie and Mandy)
0.1 Cat (Isis)
0.0.1 Synodontis Catfish (Big Spotty Fish)
0.2 Convict Cichlids
0.0.2 Crayfish

joshhutto Jul 31, 2007 05:25 PM

I agree with you, those snakes rock in person. I've probably got 20 different pics at home of them and just can't quite capture the colors even as good as that one is. The vanilla trait has alot to offer as far as combo's are concerned and their super is one of the best there is.
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Josh & Krysty Hutto
J&K Reptiles

Various Ball Pythons:::

1.0 striped vanilla
1.0 spider
1.2 Citrus Ghost and hets
1.2 Albino and hets
2.3 het Pied
0.6 50% poss het pied
1.1 Pastel (male has additional gene going on with him)
a bunch of normal female breeders
a bunch of normal female holdbacks and several rescued normal males

0.1 columbian boa, she's a feeding monster, controls my
over production of rats, lol
0.1 brazilian rainbow boa, another rat eating monster
1.1 corns

a BAD dog is MADE not bred, support the American Pit Bull Terrier as the greatest breed of dogs on Earth!!!!!

melindaste Jul 31, 2007 06:10 PM

What makes it a vanilla ball? Markers look?

joshhutto Jul 31, 2007 06:49 PM

genetics make them, lol. YOu can't get a vanilla from something that does not have the gene. It's just like a pastel as far as the genetics. breed a vanilla to a normal get half vanillas and half normals. vanilla x vanilla 25% supers, 25% normals, 50% vanillas.
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Josh & Krysty Hutto
J&K Reptiles

Various Ball Pythons:::

1.0 striped vanilla
1.0 spider
1.2 Citrus Ghost and hets
1.2 Albino and hets
2.3 het Pied
0.6 50% poss het pied
1.1 Pastel (male has additional gene going on with him)
a bunch of normal female breeders
a bunch of normal female holdbacks and several rescued normal males

0.1 columbian boa, she's a feeding monster, controls my
over production of rats, lol
0.1 brazilian rainbow boa, another rat eating monster
1.1 corns

a BAD dog is MADE not bred, support the American Pit Bull Terrier as the greatest breed of dogs on Earth!!!!!

melindaste Jul 31, 2007 06:55 PM

I think I worded that wrong. I meant was what makes them in looks to be a vanilla. I hope that makes more sense.

joshhutto Jul 31, 2007 08:14 PM

to me that seems like a crazy question as I have seen a bunch and they all look vastly different from a normal. They are sorta like a fire and have a sorta hypo look to them. Yes i know that's alot of sortas but that is the best words I can use to describe them. They are lighter than a normal, they have a very obvious head spot and their pattern tends to be a little chaotic. Hopefully we will have some eggs hatching in about 115 days (the female just had her POS) and I will be able to show some pics of hatchlings to help some better understand this morph. The thing you must understand though is that as teh snake ages and gets bigger, they get better looking unlike almost every other morph and the supers just glow once they get over 1000g. In my opinion, a snake that looks better as an adult is much more desirable than a snake that "pops" as a baby but dulls out as it's an adult. I mean afterall, they are adults alot longer than they are hatchlings.
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Josh & Krysty Hutto
J&K Reptiles

Various Ball Pythons:::

1.0 striped vanilla
1.0 spider
1.2 Citrus Ghost and hets
1.2 Albino and hets
2.3 het Pied
0.6 50% poss het pied
1.1 Pastel (male has additional gene going on with him)
a bunch of normal female breeders
a bunch of normal female holdbacks and several rescued normal males

0.1 columbian boa, she's a feeding monster, controls my
over production of rats, lol
0.1 brazilian rainbow boa, another rat eating monster
1.1 corns

a BAD dog is MADE not bred, support the American Pit Bull Terrier as the greatest breed of dogs on Earth!!!!!

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