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Slimeballs! Part Two

flavor Aug 02, 2007 03:07 PM

Well, the second clutch of the season was born early this morning. I'd like to note that they arrived EXACTLY on the day I predicted based on a little help from Bob and Jeff Rhone. This does it for me. There appears to be a very strong correlation between post-ovulatory shed and gestation. For this species, 110 days seems to be the magic number. In this clutch, all of the babies are big and beefy. None of them had any yolk to absorb. In the clutch born earlier this week, gestation was only 104 days. The babies were smaller and some still need to asorb yolks. I'm really anxious to hear some of the other breeders' results.

I'd also like to mention that this clutch resulted from only one copulation. I was feeling a little arrogant back in February. The female was showing all the right signals. I put the male in with her for one evening and that was it (I don't even think I left him in all night long). I pulled him and never reintroduced them. O.K. enough of that, here's the pics.

This female belongs to Dave Colling. She's a normal BRB and unrelated to the hypo line. The male is the same hypo male who sired the clutch born earlier this week. This is the second new line of hets produced this year.

Here's proud momma guaring her clutch.

Before I removed the babies, I just sat and watched them for a while. The mother was so gentle and seemed to want to try and keep the babies grouped together as much as possible.

I love all the little heads popping up...

and breaking through the slime.

Here's the stats:
Clutch date: August 2, 2007
Age of female: 3 years
Clutch size: 16 live (8.8); no slugs or stills!
Mass of lightest baby: 34.92 grams
Mass of heaviest baby: 37.79 grams
Days since pos-ovulatory shed: 110

Thanks for looking!

-----
Mike Lockwood
www.tooscaley.com

Replies (14)

TimS Aug 02, 2007 03:09 PM

very VERY nice majior congrats again ill know soon enough about the whole number sand POS dates. few more days and i should know

Jeff Clark Aug 02, 2007 03:15 PM

Mike,
..Congratulations on another litter of outcrossed hets. Looks like really big pretty babies.
Jeff

>>Well, the second clutch of the season was born early this morning. I'd like to note that they arrived EXACTLY on the day I predicted based on a little help from Bob and Jeff Rhone. This does it for me. There appears to be a very strong correlation between post-ovulatory shed and gestation. For this species, 110 days seems to be the magic number. In this clutch, all of the babies are big and beefy. None of them had any yolk to absorb. In the clutch born earlier this week, gestation was only 104 days. The babies were smaller and some still need to asorb yolks. I'm really anxious to hear some of the other breeders' results.
>>
>>I'd also like to mention that this clutch resulted from only one copulation. I was feeling a little arrogant back in February. The female was showing all the right signals. I put the male in with her for one evening and that was it (I don't even think I left him in all night long). I pulled him and never reintroduced them. O.K. enough of that, here's the pics.
>>
>>This female belongs to Dave Colling. She's a normal BRB and unrelated to the hypo line. The male is the same hypo male who sired the clutch born earlier this week. This is the second new line of hets produced this year.
>>
>>Here's proud momma guaring her clutch.
>>
>>
>>Before I removed the babies, I just sat and watched them for a while. The mother was so gentle and seemed to want to try and keep the babies grouped together as much as possible.
>>
>>
>>I love all the little heads popping up...
>>
>>
>>and breaking through the slime.
>>
>>
>>Here's the stats:
>>Clutch date: August 2, 2007
>>Age of female: 3 years
>>Clutch size: 16 live (8.8); no slugs or stills!
>>Mass of lightest baby: 34.92 grams
>>Mass of heaviest baby: 37.79 grams
>>Days since pos-ovulatory shed: 110
>>
>>Thanks for looking!
>>
>>-----
>>Mike Lockwood
>>www.tooscaley.com

Raveness_d Aug 02, 2007 03:58 PM

Congrats!!! Nice litter.
Can't wait to see individual pics!
-----
Danielle

Herps:
1.1 BRBs
1.0 Amel Motley Corn
----------------------
Other critters:
1.0 Great Dane
1.0 Siamese
1 Senegal Parrot
1 Blue Fronted Amazon

waspinator421 Aug 02, 2007 05:29 PM

Wow, congrats Mike... and Dave! Looks like a nice clutch. I can't wait to see their pictures after they've dried off a bit.
-----
Aubrey Ross

©
www.SlipstreamSerpents.com

FRoberts Aug 02, 2007 08:09 PM

>>Well, the second clutch of the season was born early this morning. I'd like to note that they arrived EXACTLY on the day I predicted based on a little help from Bob and Jeff Rhone. This does it for me. There appears to be a very strong correlation between post-ovulatory shed and gestation. For this species, 110 days seems to be the magic number. In this clutch, all of the babies are big and beefy. None of them had any yolk to absorb. In the clutch born earlier this week, gestation was only 104 days. The babies were smaller and some still need to asorb yolks. I'm really anxious to hear some of the other breeders' results.
>>
>>I'd also like to mention that this clutch resulted from only one copulation. I was feeling a little arrogant back in February. The female was showing all the right signals. I put the male in with her for one evening and that was it (I don't even think I left him in all night long). I pulled him and never reintroduced them. O.K. enough of that, here's the pics.
>>
>>This female belongs to Dave Colling. She's a normal BRB and unrelated to the hypo line. The male is the same hypo male who sired the clutch born earlier this week. This is the second new line of hets produced this year.
>>
>>Here's proud momma guaring her clutch.
>>
>>
>>Before I removed the babies, I just sat and watched them for a while. The mother was so gentle and seemed to want to try and keep the babies grouped together as much as possible.
>>
>>
>>I love all the little heads popping up...
>>
>>
>>and breaking through the slime.
>>
>>
>>Here's the stats:
>>Clutch date: August 2, 2007
>>Age of female: 3 years
>>Clutch size: 16 live (8.8); no slugs or stills!
>>Mass of lightest baby: 34.92 grams
>>Mass of heaviest baby: 37.79 grams
>>Days since pos-ovulatory shed: 110
>>
>>Thanks for looking!
>>
>>-----
>>Mike Lockwood
>>www.tooscaley.com
-----
Thanks,

Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

strictly4fun Aug 02, 2007 10:52 PM

Congrats to Mike and Dave And talk about wham bam thank you ma'am and if he can just show his son what to do before you send me one then I will be aok
Bob

rainbowsrus Aug 03, 2007 02:40 AM

Just one more tidbit to add, she was a virgin, so one copulation with a stud, popping her cherry in the process and voila, 16 nice fat babies!!!! WOW!!! I'll be headed over to Mikes real soon to check out our babies!!!!
-----
Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
24.36 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

flavor Aug 03, 2007 10:10 AM

I'll be home today. My phone is on. Give a call O.K.
-----
Mike Lockwood
www.tooscaley.com

Jeff Clark Aug 03, 2007 11:32 AM

Mike,
..I just hope you and Dave don't BOTH plan on couting all of this litter in each of your stats for the contest. LOL
Jeff

>>I'll be home today. My phone is on. Give a call O.K.
>>-----
>>Mike Lockwood
>>www.tooscaley.com

rainbowsrus Aug 03, 2007 12:28 PM

Of course, and figuring on counting them twice since they are het hypos!!!

>>Mike,
>>..I just hope you and Dave don't BOTH plan on couting all of this litter in each of your stats for the contest. LOL
>>Jeff
>>
>>>>I'll be home today. My phone is on. Give a call O.K.
>>>>-----
>>>>Mike Lockwood
>>>>www.tooscaley.com
-----
Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
24.36 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

flavor Aug 03, 2007 12:47 PM

Technically, since I'm the breeder, I think I'll claim the stats
-----
Mike Lockwood
www.tooscaley.com

Jeff Clark Aug 03, 2007 06:33 PM

Mike,
..That sort of sounds right but you may have to arm wrestle Dave to get him to go along.
Jeff

>>Technically, since I'm the breeder, I think I'll claim the stats
>>-----
>>Mike Lockwood
>>www.tooscaley.com

flavor Aug 03, 2007 11:00 PM

I can take him. (you don't think he reads these post often do you)
-----
Mike Lockwood
www.tooscaley.com

rainbowsrus Aug 04, 2007 02:19 AM

and not before I came over tonight....

BTW, I'm claiming 7, my fair share of the litter. Besides, your male only had 30 minutes of activity in producing them, my girl had to carry them babies for months and did a wonderful job of it, nice big healthy full term babies, No runts in that group.
-----
Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
24.36 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

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