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This Beauty hatched out of a Lavender het anery X 2x het snow pair (from Sulphur Lav x BHB Anery)...

~ZF
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Royal ReptileZ

Looks very simlilar to the 007, I mean the Phantom...
Excellent snake whatever it is, congrats!
Tom Stevens
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TomsSnakes.com

Again, wow! Zenny you are having a great year!
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Todd Hughes

Thanx Todd,

Really the "Hybino" alone made my year! lol... all the other stuff has just been a very nice bonus...

~Z
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Royal ReptileZ

WOW great job.........now what do i need to breed one of those?lol.

i assume you're asking what pairing i used to get this result?

It was from an outcrossed sulphur pair (aka 25% sulphurs):

I) Lavender male

II) 2x het snow female

Not sure if it'll happen again (if the pairing is repeated)... but a cool result...

looks like the "brooks" look from the Sulphurs just influenced the look (pattern) of this anery

~ZF
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Royal ReptileZ

I had a hard time figuring out what you used as well ....

......AND I SOLD YOU THE PAIR , LOL!

1.0 25% sulfur lav (het for anery)
0.1 25% sulfur normal (DH anery/lav)
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"Yeah ya told me, and ya wrote it down too. But how the hell am I supposed to remember!"

high white and beautiful. Shall we call it a "hold-back" Z?

Jerry Kruse

Gotta tell ya if i had space i think i would've held back 25% of what i've produced so far and i still have 7 clutches to go for 2007 (last female laid yesterday)...

I haven't decided about this lil guy yet... might hold onto him for a year just to see what he turns out like.

~Z
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Royal ReptileZ

Read Bluerosy’s post below about the yellow gene buried for two decades finally lining up in his triple hets and I wonder if this is somehow showing the Cali genes that were bred into the Brooks to make the lavenders way back when? That kind of white is amazing in a Brooks, I don’t mean to knock it in any way by bringing up the California thing. Just made me think because of the post about the high yellows earlier. Wow, the future is just getting better every day in here.

I don't think the pattern has anything to with with cal king. The lavenders have been bred for a loong time and their never has been any odd cal king appreance in that time. I think this came from the Sulfur gene. The sulfurs threw a couple blothched lavenders a few years back. One person even commeted that it looked like a cornsnake because of the blotches.

I think we have just begun to see the oddities, abberancies that come from introducing new reccessive traits. Recessive traits can also effect pattern as well as colors. Look at the hypo brooks. The hypos have weird lines down their neck , blotches and everything inbetween. But if you look at the het hypos, they just look normal. They don't have any of those squiggly lines and things going on. Just the hypo gene causes abberancies along with the visual hypo.

The below are all hypos I have either produced or acquired:

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"Yeah ya told me, and ya wrote it down too. But how the hell am I supposed to remember!"

Like Rainer said... I don't think it has ANY thing to do with the "Cali gene"/Phenotype... I HATE this debate because, I still not 100% convinced these things have Cali king in them. that being said.

The snake looks "hi-white" because it's an Anery... if it were a "normal"/ non-morph/ het, it'd just look like a thick banded Florida king.

~ZF
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Royal ReptileZ

Zenny that is a beautiful snake. Never seen anything like that happen with the anery or axanthic gene. I wonder what it will turn out looking like. Must have blown you mind to first see that snake.

However, I am not clear on what you used to get that?

you said:

"This Beauty hatched out of a Lavender het anery X 2x het snow pair (from Sulphur Lav x BHB Anery)... "

whats a 2x het snow pair ? One was lavender het snow what was the other?

Does that mean you bred my 25% sulfur lavender to a BHB anery het lav? ......?... :2x het snow pair (?)

What I am getting at is were both the snakes from the sulfur x BHb line you got from me? Same ones I have advertised here:
http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=59&de=518449
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"Yeah ya told me, and ya wrote it down too. But how the hell am I supposed to remember!"

In `04 i got my 1st pair of snakes from you...

They were a lavender (het anery)male and a 2x het snow female. Those two snakes came from the outcrossing of the sulphur lavender to a bhb anery...

so my adults are from Sulphur Lavender X BHB Anery

Old pic of that lil guy when there was nothing WOW about him...

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Royal ReptileZ

I still don't know what a "2x het snow female" is. I understand the pair came from me, but was the female a visual normal double het. Is that what you mean?
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"Yeah ya told me, and ya wrote it down too. But how the hell am I supposed to remember!"

~ZF
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Royal ReptileZ

i was thinkin Whitey not to be offensive and that name is already used,then there is Cracker and they go good with Peanut Butter any how i hope you prove it out by back breeding to parent or sibs btw i hope its a male ??? look out Ball Pythons.man that white is intense and black saddles hope it holds has it shed yet?Congradulations...C

Its not a new reccessive just a nice blotched anerthristic. New names should only be given to new morphs. One with an abberancy or high color is not a new morph. By giving every abberancy a new name will just screw up the brooks kings morphs. There is already enough new morphs to make it confusing for most. I have a feeling that will be the challenge as i explain the Jelly, Phantom. Peabino and Golden to people. Most folks don't read this forim or check the classfieds to be exposed. At least that my experience at Daytona.

BTW I will be at table #47 at The Reptile Breeders Expo this year. With a large banner of the brooks morphs and a nice set up I will probably have a lot of people stopping and asking questions about these new morphs. Should be interesting to see how many people even heard of a Peanut Butter much less a Peabino or Phantom.
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"Yeah ya told me, and ya wrote it down too. But how the hell am I supposed to remember!"