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These are two of my BRBs. The lighter colored one with the missing pattern on the sides is my Walsh Clown Phase female. The darker snake is Santaremo my aneryhtristic looking male.

those are about as far apart in looks as you can get!

where did you get your axanthic looking male? it certainly looks like the adult axanthics i have seen.

jon

Jon,
...He was born here. He looked normal until about 18 months old. There were other babies in the litter that were very dark but not anerythristic looking.
Jeff

>>those are about as far apart in looks as you can get!
>>
>>where did you get your axanthic looking male? it certainly looks like the adult axanthics i have seen.
>>
>>jon

those do look very different but they are also very good looking snakes. where did you get them from?
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Tim

0.1 Colombian Rainbow Boa
1.0 Albino Motley Corn
1.0 Black cat

Tim,
..The anerythristic looking male was born here. I got the other from Gary Walsh.
Jeff

>>those do look very different but they are also very good looking snakes. where did you get them from?
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>>Tim
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>>0.1 Colombian Rainbow Boa
>>1.0 Albino Motley Corn
>>1.0 Black cat

those are SSCCHHWWWEEEEETTTTT that clown phase or whatever it was called omg so when you poppin some of those out. i think i need me some of them right there

Very pretty animals Jeff. The crescents on the anery male really pop!
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Mike Lockwood
www.tooscaley.com

Jeff,

Thanks for sharing the pics. Both are beautiful rainbows, and
comparing the pic of Santaremo side-by-side with a picture of a normal BRB gives a good idea how they differ. I believe brown requires some red pigment, though... Okay, I won't go there.
Whatever it's called, it's outstanding.

The Walsh Clown Phase female is awesome! Any idea/speculation on the how those genetics work, pics of parents, etc?

Thanks,
Ed

>>These are two of my BRBs. The lighter colored one with the missing pattern on the sides is my Walsh Clown Phase female. The darker snake is Santaremo my aneryhtristic looking male.
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>>

Sure hope you can eventually produce some more.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
24.36 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Awesome contrast! That clown phase is super cool... are you breeding her this coming season? If so, put me down for one!
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Aubrey Ross

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www.SlipstreamSerpents.com

>>Awesome contrast! That clown phase is super cool... are you breeding her this coming season? If so, put me down for one!
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>>Aubrey Ross
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>>www.SlipstreamSerpents.com

I feel honored! I figured at least Dave would be ahead of me for this one! Now I really hope its genetic!!
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Aubrey Ross

©
www.SlipstreamSerpents.com

clown phase babies for quite some time now......
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
24.36 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Dave,
..You haven't heard the price yet. I have been watching them greedy idiots breeding all them Ball Pyton morphs and I do believe I have a million dollar bloodline here. LOL
Jeff
This post has been edited to remove a word that would indicate the greedy idiots came from parents who were not married to each other.

>>clown phase babies for quite some time now......
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>>Thanks,
>>
>>
>>Dave Colling
>>
>>www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com
>>
>>
>>
>>0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
>>0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)
>>
>>LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
>>24.36 BRB
>>19.19 BCI
>>And those are only the breeders
>>
>>lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Quite true re price, but then again, until you tell me the price, then how can I say yes or no?

loved the "This post has been edited to remove a word that would indicate the greedy idiots came from parents who were not married to each other." line!

>>Dave,
>>..You haven't heard the price yet. I have been watching them greedy idiots breeding all them Ball Pyton morphs and I do believe I have a million dollar bloodline here. LOL
>>Jeff
>>This post has been edited to remove a word that would indicate the greedy idiots came from parents who were not married to each other.
>>
>>>>clown phase babies for quite some time now......
>>>>-----
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Dave Colling
>>>>
>>>>www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
>>>>0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)
>>>>
>>>>LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
>>>>24.36 BRB
>>>>19.19 BCI
>>>>And those are only the breeders
>>>>
>>>>lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
24.36 BRB
19.19 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Dave,
...I have not got a clue about what normal looking baby snakes from the Walsh snake would be worth. I would want to keep some and see what they produced. Babies would legitimately be worth some premium over normal snakes. The market for morphs seems crazy to me though. I am not nearly as impre$$ed with morphs as many people in this hobby are.
Jeff

>>Quite true re price, but then again, until you tell me the price, then how can I say yes or no?
>>
>>loved the "This post has been edited to remove a word that would indicate the greedy idiots came from parents who were not married to each other." line!
>>
>>
>>
>>>>Dave,
>>>>..You haven't heard the price yet. I have been watching them greedy idiots breeding all them Ball Pyton morphs and I do believe I have a million dollar bloodline here. LOL
>>>>Jeff
>>>>This post has been edited to remove a word that would indicate the greedy idiots came from parents who were not married to each other.
>>>>
>>>>>>clown phase babies for quite some time now......
>>>>>>-----
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dave Colling
>>>>>>
>>>>>>www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
>>>>>>0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
>>>>>>24.36 BRB
>>>>>>19.19 BCI
>>>>>>And those are only the breeders
>>>>>>
>>>>>>lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats
>>-----
>>Thanks,
>>
>>
>>Dave Colling
>>
>>www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com
>>
>>
>>
>>0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
>>0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)
>>
>>LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
>>24.36 BRB
>>19.19 BCI
>>And those are only the breeders
>>
>>lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Jeff.. put me on that list too!! I wouldn't say I am "morph" crazy.. I just like unique animals.. and that Walsh animal is certainly that..

Great looking snakes!!

>>Dave,
>>...I have not got a clue about what normal looking baby snakes from the Walsh snake would be worth. I would want to keep some and see what they produced. Babies would legitimately be worth some premium over normal snakes. The market for morphs seems crazy to me though. I am not nearly as impre$$ed with morphs as many people in this hobby are.
>>Jeff
>>
>>>>Quite true re price, but then again, until you tell me the price, then how can I say yes or no?
>>>>
>>>>loved the "This post has been edited to remove a word that would indicate the greedy idiots came from parents who were not married to each other." line!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>Dave,
>>>>>>..You haven't heard the price yet. I have been watching them greedy idiots breeding all them Ball Pyton morphs and I do believe I have a million dollar bloodline here. LOL
>>>>>>Jeff
>>>>>>This post has been edited to remove a word that would indicate the greedy idiots came from parents who were not married to each other.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>clown phase babies for quite some time now......
>>>>>>>>-----
>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Dave Colling
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
>>>>>>>>0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
>>>>>>>>24.36 BRB
>>>>>>>>19.19 BCI
>>>>>>>>And those are only the breeders
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats
>>>>-----
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Dave Colling
>>>>
>>>>www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
>>>>0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)
>>>>
>>>>LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
>>>>24.36 BRB
>>>>19.19 BCI
>>>>And those are only the breeders
>>>>
>>>>lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats
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photos.xtremecombatsports.com

phenotypic anomalies can also cause deleterious genes to become fixed in the lines genotype.

For example,

a certain ball python morph seems to carry a gene for tremors. These snakes sit there an "wobble" their heads and twitch and shake. Not just one of them, almost all balls that carry this trait exhibit this undesirable trait along with it, who knows what other defects are hiding in all these line bred snakes.

Anomalies such as albinism are not exactly helpful to the animals longevity in the wild, so mother nature culls them.

I find some of these characteristics desirable, but in all honesty I find my favorites are usually wild pattern types with no phenotype/genotype anomalies present......Damn I have some nice snakes!!!!!

a few with phenotypic anomalies, the are nice I have to admit, but the most IMPRESSIVE snakes in my collection are wild type patterns and colors.....

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Thanks,

Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

you should send that albino ball python this way it would look much nicer over here and havea nice boy/girl friend pending what yours is waiting for it lol. anyt ime now ill be waiting for the fed-x guy to show up

mine, they are my best friends snakes. I currently am housing his entire ball collection.

1.1 albinos
1.1 het pieds
1.1 pos het snow
and a few odd and end normals with plans...
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Thanks,

Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

duplicate pic lol. I have had that happen a couple of times but I tend to check on the preview page to catch my mistake but you printed the lucy rat twice but that is okay cuz it clearly deserves two looks
Bob

same, yeah, the snakes that nice lol
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Thanks,

Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

this post was coming and talk about something ontogenic lol he is looking real cool. By any chance do you happen to have an old pic of him Jeff so I can save to my computer like a timeline so to speak and you can send them via e-mail if you want and I will never post them but I sure do like to look at them from time to time though I remember a pic at around 18 months of him and then another one when he was losing his red pigment but had some noticably around the head area. Any pics would be tha sh-t btw
Bob

BOB said a naughty word bob said a naughty word lol i think somebody needs a bar of soap to wash his D@mn mouth out. oops i just said a naughty word.

in a case of your favorite soap, a 3 month supply of your favorite energy drink and find you a suitable mate for your bearded for him lol.
Bob

oh wow lol nice but still not good enough. getting closer tho them trades seem like i get more and mroe stuff every time lol

http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=62&de=524058

Pretty interesting.

Ed

>>this post was coming and talk about something ontogenic lol he is looking real cool. By any chance do you happen to have an old pic of him Jeff so I can save to my computer like a timeline so to speak and you can send them via e-mail if you want and I will never post them but I sure do like to look at them from time to time though I remember a pic at around 18 months of him and then another one when he was losing his red pigment but had some noticably around the head area. Any pics would be tha sh-t btw
>>Bob

it seems pretty cheap but I really like the color others have (Sharp and Seib lines) to their crescents and these have none. Even Jeff Clark's anomaly has some bright ass white crescents so I think those are better looking IMHO. Technically since he produced that "anery" last year it would be an '06 and an '06 can't breed until it is 2.5 years old which puts it at '09 but he is saying it should produce which "should" is the key word for shooting blanks lol I plan on getting some quality animals when I spend several k so I don't think I would ever invest in that line let alone an inferior line no offense to Jose in any way but for 4k I will buy a pastel motley or a Sharp strain male and female het and buy a couple of nice normals from Dave this year with the left overs but it is a very cheap price indeed. Here is a pic of my Lockwood line female hypo but the pic is a couple of months old and she has shed a couple times since then but she looks about the same I would say and I should have a het male coming later on this year when I can gather up the funds for Mr. Flavor

After seeing a hypo brb in person Ed, I don't think I can buy another normal brb unless it is a het or it has to be drop dead gorgeous. I am really interested in getting three more normal brb's- one high red, one high orange and a very lightly colored yellowish one. Nice chatting with you Ed and take care buddy
Bob

Just to clarify, I wasn't recommending you buy it, I just thought you'd be interested in seeing the pics of the "anery" snake as a newborn vs. adult. I don't know the seller at all, he could be honest as a priest or crooked as.. well, a crook. I have no idea. (I agree with you 100% on the price. No disrespect to anyone, but while I'm interested in the genetics behind it all, I'd rather have a nicely colored, $150 "normal" BRB as a pet, it's just as attractive as that "anery." While I haven't seen any hypos in person, I'm with you - they do seem to grab my attention, and if I were to spend the money, it would be on a hypo.

Damn, it's hard to decide what kind of snake to get! I've considered everything from pretty blue garter snakes for $50, to
dwarf BCI's, to Angolan Pythons for a couple grand each. Shoot,
I can't even decide which type of RB I'd get. I like to be a little different, so the Argentinians Jeff has up for sale appeal to me.

Okay, time for some shut-eye. Have a good night.

Ed

>>it seems pretty cheap but I really like the color others have (Sharp and Seib lines) to their crescents and these have none. Even Jeff Clark's anomaly has some bright ass white crescents so I think those are better looking IMHO. Technically since he produced that "anery" last year it would be an '06 and an '06 can't breed until it is 2.5 years old which puts it at '09 but he is saying it should produce which "should" is the key word for shooting blanks lol I plan on getting some quality animals when I spend several k so I don't think I would ever invest in that line let alone an inferior line no offense to Jose in any way but for 4k I will buy a pastel motley or a Sharp strain male and female het and buy a couple of nice normals from Dave this year with the left overs but it is a very cheap price indeed. Here is a pic of my Lockwood line female hypo but the pic is a couple of months old and she has shed a couple times since then but she looks about the same I would say and I should have a het male coming later on this year when I can gather up the funds for Mr. Flavor
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>>After seeing a hypo brb in person Ed, I don't think I can buy another normal brb unless it is a het or it has to be drop dead gorgeous. I am really interested in getting three more normal brb's- one high red, one high orange and a very lightly colored yellowish one. Nice chatting with you Ed and take care buddy
>>Bob

Bob,
..No early PICs of him. He was just another BRB that somehow did not get wholesaled.
Jeff

>>this post was coming and talk about something ontogenic lol he is looking real cool. By any chance do you happen to have an old pic of him Jeff so I can save to my computer like a timeline so to speak and you can send them via e-mail if you want and I will never post them but I sure do like to look at them from time to time though I remember a pic at around 18 months of him and then another one when he was losing his red pigment but had some noticably around the head area. Any pics would be tha sh-t btw
>>Bob

both snakes are very nice, clown's face unreal in that night color pic !!!

>>These are two of my BRBs. The lighter colored one with the missing pattern on the sides is my Walsh Clown Phase female. The darker snake is Santaremo my aneryhtristic looking male.
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>>
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Thanks,

Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research