I assume this is working with Matt Creel in the office of Isett about attaching the HB 1309 and the pre-engrossed HB 2414 to HB 12.

Sounds to me like TP&W was not only behind this, but looking forward to the attachment of these bills in such a way as to promote that anti-herper agenda.

"David,

Do you have a version of HB 12 that has the road hunting and snake language in it?

Matt indicated that LE would be taking the lead on outlining potential rules/permitting. When are the new rules scheduled to go into effect?

Will all road hunting for herps be illegal?

J"
I need to dig deeper back on this message.