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tim21087 Aug 07, 2007 11:17 PM

just if anyone is interested barry bonds has hit home run 756 setting the all time home run record. i know it's nothing to do with rainbows or herping in anyway but i thought i'd post anyway on how i dislike him, he is rude and treats people like they are beneath him, and think he has cheated to gain this record. sorry for the rant about baseball but i'm sure there are some of you here that also like the sport and have opinions about this milestone as well.
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Tim

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strictly4fun Aug 07, 2007 11:21 PM

to go further off topic but related to cheating though. In UFC Shawn or Sean Sherk is suspended for one year for violating substance abuse policy with some performance enhancers himself.
Bob

tim21087 Aug 07, 2007 11:25 PM

it's a shame that people like this have to cheat to do great things. i've grown up loving baseball and always admired how hard they had to work to become professionals . i also admired barry before i think he started taking steroids, back when he was skinny and could steal basses. it's a shame that people do things like this to give them an edge while other people who compete with them do it fairly and naturally and some of those natural players don't get the chance to become pros because the people who are willing to cheat take their places.
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Tim

0.1 Colombian Rainbow Boa
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strictly4fun Aug 07, 2007 11:32 PM

or two? Isn't that the american dream of today lol but seems pretty true. If this thread gets erased it's because either Barry Bonds, Sean Sherk or one of their admirers ratted us out to ks cuz personal attacks aren't allowed haha lol
Bob

tim21087 Aug 07, 2007 11:40 PM

well in that case we won't make it personal it'll just be a rant against steroids and cheating strongly implied in their directions
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Tim

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TimS Aug 07, 2007 11:41 PM

its not for a dollar or to its anythign for a few hundred k lol thats a whole lot of dollar or twos lol

tim21087 Aug 07, 2007 11:45 PM

yeah i wouldn't ming making a couple million a year just play baseball, hell i'd love it. but if i had to cheat i'm not sure i'd love it any more or be able to look at myself in the mirror.
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Tim

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TimOsborne Aug 07, 2007 11:46 PM

Sherk hasn't been suspended yet. He is awaiting the trial. It has been postponed until sometime in OCT. Right now, he is on a temp suspension until the trial.

Hermes Franca, who was Sherks opponent, also tested positive and openly admitted and apologized for using steroids. He is currently on suspension for 1 year.

>>to go further off topic but related to cheating though. In UFC Shawn or Sean Sherk is suspended for one year for violating substance abuse policy with some performance enhancers himself.
>>Bob
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strictly4fun Aug 08, 2007 07:05 PM

Marvin Gallard (ssp.) I went to high school with him and he tested posiitive on some powder so he has been out for awhile since he last defeat to Joe "Daddy" Stevenson, his suspension is 8 months but I'm sorry I heard wrong but I appreciate the correction though and Rampage and Dan Henderson on Sept. 8 I think on spike woooooohoooooooo
Bob

TimOsborne Aug 09, 2007 09:56 PM

>>Marvin Gallard (ssp.) - Melvin Guillard? I watched him bet the tar out of a friend of mine one night in Metarie in one of his first mma fights back in 02 or 03..

Hendo and Jackson will be a good fight, I wish hendo would stay at 185 though. He is to small enought to make 185 w/out an issue and is easily one of the top 185lbers in the world.. He would own that weight class for years and with his sportsmanship and respect of people, he would certainly become a huge name w/ the fans.

I think he will beat QJ, but if he doesn't, I expect he will go to 185 anyway. That is the only fight on that card that interests me though.. Crocop and Kongo has potential to be interesting if Crocop can shake the "L" and the old Crocop shows up. I think the 8/25 and the 9/22 events will be much more entertaining for both the diehard fans and the common fan.
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strictly4fun Aug 09, 2007 10:30 PM

I meant to say Melvin lol yeah but he has no ground game though. I really like "The Spider" Silva at 185 and also George St. Pierre might be my favorite. I loved Rich Franklin and then the Spider to him to school and I was devastated. I also like Spencer Fisher too in the 155 class but I heard there might be a 145 lbs. class, you heard of that? Crocop had some nasty leg kicks his first outing and his second, well he got embarrassed but I also cheer for Randy the Natural. Another guy I like is Nick Diaz but he's not the best and I hate Diego Sanchez btw. I could type UFC for awhile but I'll stop here for now. Nice chatting with you Tim
Bob

TimOsborne Aug 09, 2007 10:50 PM

Melvin is a good wrestler.. and his submissions is much better then it was... his strong point though is he is simply a freaky athlete..

Anderson Silva is a stud for sure.. I love watching him fight and always have. You want to see some wars find some of his old Meca fights!

Rich is a great guy, inside and outside of the ring. He is used to referee for me when I was promoting the amatuer show. Nothing but class. I don't think he is at the top of the division, but certainly will always be a favorite of the fans.

There have been rumors of 145 in the UFC for years.. I doubt it will happen for a while. They actually did away w/ 155 for a couple of a years and just brought it back in the past year or two. I would expect that as the sport grows, 145 will be added. Especially if they take the UFC back to Asia.. but I doubt we will see it for several years. In my opinion.. 145 and 135 are some of the most exciting fights though..

Crocop has been a different fighter in the UFC.. He was a beast in Pride, with over half of wins coming from kicking someones head off and leaving them out cold. He is a dangerous striker for sure, but recovering from a fight like his last is very very difficult, even for people on the top of their game.

St Peirre is a stud too.. absolutely have lots of wars coming from that guy in the future.

Anyway.. anytime you want to get off on the fight world.. just bring it up

>>I meant to say Melvin lol yeah but he has no ground game though. I really like "The Spider" Silva at 185 and also George St. Pierre might be my favorite. I loved Rich Franklin and then the Spider to him to school and I was devastated. I also like Spencer Fisher too in the 155 class but I heard there might be a 145 lbs. class, you heard of that? Crocop had some nasty leg kicks his first outing and his second, well he got embarrassed but I also cheer for Randy the Natural. Another guy I like is Nick Diaz but he's not the best and I hate Diego Sanchez btw. I could type UFC for awhile but I'll stop here for now. Nice chatting with you Tim
>>Bob
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Jeff Clark Aug 10, 2007 04:47 PM

Jens Pulver is moving over to the WEC to fight in 145 pond class there. I think we may see more of the smaller UFC fighters make that move if UFC does not do something to make it fairer for them to compete. When they fight in the 155 class they are up against fighters who are 165 pounders and drop to 155 and they are just way bigger. I like UFC and what White has done with it but a good WEC fight is just as good to watch.
Jeff

>>I meant to say Melvin lol yeah but he has no ground game though. I really like "The Spider" Silva at 185 and also George St. Pierre might be my favorite. I loved Rich Franklin and then the Spider to him to school and I was devastated. I also like Spencer Fisher too in the 155 class but I heard there might be a 145 lbs. class, you heard of that? Crocop had some nasty leg kicks his first outing and his second, well he got embarrassed but I also cheer for Randy the Natural. Another guy I like is Nick Diaz but he's not the best and I hate Diego Sanchez btw. I could type UFC for awhile but I'll stop here for now. Nice chatting with you Tim
>>Bob

TimOsborne Aug 11, 2007 04:26 PM

No doubt Jeff.. The WEC has held a lot of great events, and some of the best fights around without a doubt.

btw.. most of the guys walking at 165lbs are heading to 145 or even 135 now.. the average 155 pro is walking 175 most of the time. Even the amatuers I used to manage would cut 10-15lbs.. It always amazed me to watch someone shave that much weight off.. I guess it is in huge part due to the wrestling influence. I have often thought it would be a good idea to use the same rules as the AIBA and have them weigh in on the morning of the fight.. but I guess it really doesn't matter as long as the rules are the same for both fighters.

>>Jens Pulver is moving over to the WEC to fight in 145 pond class there. I think we may see more of the smaller UFC fighters make that move if UFC does not do something to make it fairer for them to compete. When they fight in the 155 class they are up against fighters who are 165 pounders and drop to 155 and they are just way bigger. I like UFC and what White has done with it but a good WEC fight is just as good to watch.
>>Jeff
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>>>>I meant to say Melvin lol yeah but he has no ground game though. I really like "The Spider" Silva at 185 and also George St. Pierre might be my favorite. I loved Rich Franklin and then the Spider to him to school and I was devastated. I also like Spencer Fisher too in the 155 class but I heard there might be a 145 lbs. class, you heard of that? Crocop had some nasty leg kicks his first outing and his second, well he got embarrassed but I also cheer for Randy the Natural. Another guy I like is Nick Diaz but he's not the best and I hate Diego Sanchez btw. I could type UFC for awhile but I'll stop here for now. Nice chatting with you Tim
>>>>Bob
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coluberking25 Aug 08, 2007 12:00 AM

I pure, straight, hate him.

Ruth did it on hot dogs and beer, Aaron did it with class, how did he do it!?!
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run26neys Aug 08, 2007 09:45 AM

Cheating and drugs have been in baseball for a really long time. In the 20's and 30's they were expermenting with caffiene and other drugs. Thus, I do not fault Barry for use of steroids as I would venture that more than 50% of the players used them (most not to the level he did). I do fault him for how he treats people, thinks he is above others, and how he will not admit to his steroid use (gaining 25 pounds of muscle in one off season is impossible without steroid use).
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tim21087 Aug 08, 2007 09:55 AM

"Thus, I do not fault Barry for use of steroids as I would venture that more than 50% of the players used them (most not to the level he did)."

this is where i disagree with you. my feelings are that as long as there is even one player choosing nt to use illegal drugs and risk his body to play the game fairly then all who use any kind of illgal drugs to gain an edge are cheaters. i use the word illgal beause they are against the law, for good reasons, making the idea of using them not only a bad one but also against the law. if they were legal within the law and within the rules of baseball, which again they are not, this would not be a big issue but they are and that changes everything
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Tim

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run26neys Aug 08, 2007 10:16 AM

I just feel that the illegal steroid use was very widespread in baseball, and that is a big reason MLB was so slow in changing its stand on steroid use. I believe if they tested 100% of the players 6 to 8 years ago that more than 50% would have tested positive.

I feel Barry is a real a**, and that part of him is worse than the steroid use. I do not condone the use of illegal drugs in sports.
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tim21087 Aug 08, 2007 10:21 AM

i agree that steroids have run rampant through baseball for a long time now, especially in the '90s. and are a plague that needs to be remedied. the only reason this is such a hot topic is because bonds was chasing that all important record in baseball, and now holds it all to his own. it's a shame that people can't be more concerned about something this serious unless a record this historic is on the line.
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Tim

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1.0 Black cat

tim21087 Aug 08, 2007 10:24 AM

while i may not like barry as a person, or condone the use of steroids in any way i do tip my hat to him. what he accomplished is something amazing that requires immense skill, concentration and will power. congratulations to barry bonds, the new home run king.
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Tim

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Jeff Clark Aug 08, 2007 02:44 PM

Have you noticed that recently all the celebs that are in the news are behaving badly? Major league sports figures, politicians, hollywood stars just all seem to be doing really tasteless or illegal things and at the same time thumbing their noses at we idiots who idolize them. More Americans watch ET than any substantive news shows. There are enormously important changes going on in the world today and most of America would rather know what P. Hilton said or if Michael Vick is really the dog fighting kingpin he seems to be. It is a funny world we live in.
Jeff

>>just if anyone is interested barry bonds has hit home run 756 setting the all time home run record. i know it's nothing to do with rainbows or herping in anyway but i thought i'd post anyway on how i dislike him, he is rude and treats people like they are beneath him, and think he has cheated to gain this record. sorry for the rant about baseball but i'm sure there are some of you here that also like the sport and have opinions about this milestone as well.
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>>Tim
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>>0.1 Colombian Rainbow Boa
>>1.0 Albino Motley Corn
>>1.0 Black cat

run26neys Aug 08, 2007 03:10 PM

I agree that way too much time is spent on celebs that do not deserve the attention. The world is a crazy place right now and most Americans do not realize what all is going on around the globe - and some of these things will have a great impact on this country.
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Mike

5.6 BRB
1.2 Spotted Python
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FRoberts Aug 08, 2007 05:47 PM

of it's bottleneck and we as a "specie" are now in a state of involution... spiraling towards our own destruction... of life as we currently know it...an inward curvature or penetration ....something that is affirmed or denied of the subject in a proposition in logic ...the regressive alterations of a body or its parts characteristic of the aging process (meant as a specie, not a individual life form)......So as I am referring to my individual connotation of the word involution, not its denotation, which could say just the opposite....in short...WE ARE DOOMED............some more time has passed...in which direction only God knows..........
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Jeff Clark Aug 08, 2007 06:22 PM

Frank,
...We are as doomed as doomed can be. Hey, and have you also noticed that SNL is not nearly as good as it used to be.
Jeff

>>of it's bottleneck and we as a "specie" are now in a state of involution... spiraling towards our own destruction... of life as we currently know it...an inward curvature or penetration ....something that is affirmed or denied of the subject in a proposition in logic ...the regressive alterations of a body or its parts characteristic of the aging process (meant as a specie, not a individual life form)......So as I am referring to my individual connotation of the word involution, not its denotation, which could say just the opposite....in short...WE ARE DOOMED............some more time has passed...in which direction only God knows..........
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>>Thanks,
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>>Frank Roberts
>>Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research
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FRoberts Aug 08, 2007 06:35 PM

to how funny it used to be....samurai deli it's not....

>>Frank,
>>...We are as doomed as doomed can be. Hey, and have you also noticed that SNL is not nearly as good as it used to be.
>>Jeff
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>>>>of it's bottleneck and we as a "specie" are now in a state of involution... spiraling towards our own destruction... of life as we currently know it...an inward curvature or penetration ....something that is affirmed or denied of the subject in a proposition in logic ...the regressive alterations of a body or its parts characteristic of the aging process (meant as a specie, not a individual life form)......So as I am referring to my individual connotation of the word involution, not its denotation, which could say just the opposite....in short...WE ARE DOOMED............some more time has passed...in which direction only God knows..........
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>>>>Thanks,
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>>>>Frank Roberts
>>>>Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research
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Thanks,

Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

FRoberts Aug 08, 2007 07:30 PM

about the racer in Panama you captured....

I will continue to try and figure it out, I do a little research here and there and found these pictures....

Drymoluber dichrous found in panama

Masticophis mentovarius ( possible subspecies of this snake, it is found throughout the region and including panama)pics may be of varous dif subspecies....

Coluber rhodorachis

Drymobius margaritiferus

still looking, I did find a kewl site you may like.... I am still looking through it for the snake.....

The Amphibians and Reptiles of Panamá

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Frank Roberts
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FRoberts Aug 08, 2007 07:53 PM

Panama also had a mess load of Rhadinaea species, somewhat racer like, but I assumed you said def coluber because of snakes head and body type....still think you caught a specie or sub species of this....


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Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

Jeff Clark Aug 08, 2007 09:06 PM

Frank,
...That first PIC is the snake. I was trying too hard to make myself believe that it was Coluber constrictor ssp. I should try thinking outside the box a little more sometimes.
Jeff

>>about the racer in Panama you captured....
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>>I will continue to try and figure it out, I do a little research here and there and found these pictures....
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>>Drymoluber dichrous found in panama
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>>The Amphibians and Reptiles of Panamá
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>>Thanks,
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>>Frank Roberts
>>Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research
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FRoberts Aug 09, 2007 12:43 PM

Not really too far outside the box....Drymoluber dichrous is a type of racer. VERY CLOSELY related, maybe more so then the nomenclature states.

A majority of the ophidian clade is not properly classified in my opinion.

that was the first snake I posted for a reason, besides the one racer I knew it wasn't ( Drymobius margaritiferus
posted pic anyway ), that was the only racer I could find.

Although, I think the second pic looks more Coluber like than any I found. That's a whip snake.....it's a racer if you ask me...I am WAY outside the box lol!!!!

Image
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Thanks,

Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

FRoberts Aug 09, 2007 12:56 PM

>>Not really too far outside the box....Drymoluber dichrous is a type of racer. VERY CLOSELY related, maybe more so then the nomenclature states.
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>>A majority of the ophidian clade is not properly classified in my opinion.
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>>that was the first snake I posted for a reason, besides the one racer I knew it wasn't ( Drymobius margaritiferus
>>posted pic anyway ), that was the only racer I could find.
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>>Although, I think the second pic looks more Coluber like than any I found. That's a whip snake.....it's a racer if you ask me...I am WAY outside the box lol!!!!
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>>Thanks,
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>>Frank Roberts
>>Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research
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Thanks,

Frank Roberts
Roberts' Realm Of Reptile Research

underdog125 Aug 10, 2007 11:05 AM

that snake has alot of ticks on it eeeww! but nice looking snake

FRoberts Aug 10, 2007 11:32 AM

>>that snake has alot of ticks on it eeeww! but nice looking snake

yeah it does, its a wild neotropical whip snake, kewl looking
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Frank Roberts
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