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How do you choose them?

What do you look for in a baby that will grow up to be real beauty?

Any responses will be helpful.
Thanks

i choose my ghost by their line

orange and butterscotch are the best lines of ghost IMO
i like orange ghosts a lil more because they dont fade as much and they dont loose to much of their orange but they can.

i dont line yellow or greens. they are to dull.

but my altime favs are the peach ghosts that RDR produces and the extreme hypos TSK produces

I would have to agree with you on that I prefer the oranges but heres a yellow female that has alot of blushing and is super bright not dull at all.

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Damian Macioce
www.strongholdreptiles.com

As we are in the market for a Ghost in the near future...I tend to really like the light ones, the ones that almost have that TPos Albino look to them...Some of the ghosts I see don't look all that much different than a normal...to the untrained eye..but then there are some that are SUPER light...I will be looking for the lightest ones...as I would think the darker the Ghosts is as a hatchling the darker the adult, so I would think picking out the lightest, and brightest ones would make better adults..

Are there certain lines that produce nicer Ghosts?
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Executive Reptiles
Amanda Kingsbury & David Kendrick
www.executivereptiles.com

I've seen some ghosts that were almost purple and yellow as babies that grew up to be just light colored snakes as adults. Some animals are easily picked out from babies and turn out to be stunning, but you need to realize that not all screaming adults look great as babies. For example, the line of hypo we use is the citrus produced by gulf coast reptiles. This line is extremely high yellow and gold through many generations of selective breeding. So much that even the hets look like a morph. However as babies they don't look all that great. But with the citrus line you can tell if they are going to turn out to be screamers by how little actual brown they have on them mainly because as adults they have none and the amount of central blushing. I'll post some pics of our founding male as a hatchling and the most recent pics to show you what I mean. BTW the citrus line has been proven compatible with blonds so I'm sure it will prove out with the oranges too.
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Josh & Krysty Hutto
J&K Reptiles

Various Ball Pythons:::

1.0 striped vanilla
1.0 spider
1.2 Citrus Ghost and hets
1.2 Albino and hets
2.3 het Pied
0.6 50% poss het pied
1.1 Pastel (male has additional gene going on with him)
a bunch of normal female breeders
a bunch of normal female holdbacks and several rescued normal males

0.1 columbian boa, she's a feeding monster, controls my
over production of rats, lol
0.1 brazilian rainbow boa, another rat eating monster
1.1 corns

a BAD dog is MADE not bred, support the American Pit Bull Terrier as the greatest breed of dogs on Earth!!!!!

np...

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Josh & Krysty Hutto
J&K Reptiles

Various Ball Pythons:::

1.0 striped vanilla
1.0 spider
1.2 Citrus Ghost and hets
1.2 Albino and hets
2.3 het Pied
0.6 50% poss het pied
1.1 Pastel (male has additional gene going on with him)
a bunch of normal female breeders
a bunch of normal female holdbacks and several rescued normal males

0.1 columbian boa, she's a feeding monster, controls my
over production of rats, lol
0.1 brazilian rainbow boa, another rat eating monster
1.1 corns

a BAD dog is MADE not bred, support the American Pit Bull Terrier as the greatest breed of dogs on Earth!!!!!

I really like the butterscotch hypos. They're absolute screamers as hatchlings.

i agree, they are screamers as hatchlings but as adults alot of them are less than appealing which is why we went with the citrus line. They develop into top notch adults, which we all know a snake stays an adult alot longer than it is that screaming 100g baby.
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Josh & Krysty Hutto
J&K Reptiles

Various Ball Pythons:::

1.0 striped vanilla
1.0 spider
1.2 Citrus Ghost and hets
1.2 Albino and hets
2.3 het Pied
0.6 50% poss het pied
1.1 Pastel (male has additional gene going on with him)
a bunch of normal female breeders
a bunch of normal female holdbacks and several rescued normal males

0.1 columbian boa, she's a feeding monster, controls my
over production of rats, lol
0.1 brazilian rainbow boa, another rat eating monster
1.1 corns

a BAD dog is MADE not bred, support the American Pit Bull Terrier as the greatest breed of dogs on Earth!!!!!

I have to agree, citrus are my favorite as well. I have orange, yellow and the citrus and actually prefer the citrus or yellow as adults. My adut yellow looks more ghostly than the other lines I have with the citrus being the most colorful. I have been told by some the citrus line isnt compatible with yellows and by others that it is. Time will tell I have a clutch cooking right now from a citrus to het yellow as we speak.
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Greg Power
B.O.A. Inc
boainc@gmail.com

gulf coast just hatched out eggs from a blonde x het citrus and got some ghosts, mighty pretty ones to boot. so those two lines are compatible and the blonde is compatible with nerd orange which is also compatible with yellow ghosts so unless some wierd genetics are going on it should be.
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Josh & Krysty Hutto
J&K Reptiles

Various Ball Pythons:::

1.0 striped vanilla
1.0 spider
1.2 Citrus Ghost and hets
1.2 Albino and hets
2.3 het Pied
0.6 50% poss het pied
1.1 Pastel (male has additional gene going on with him)
a bunch of normal female breeders
a bunch of normal female holdbacks and several rescued normal males

0.1 columbian boa, she's a feeding monster, controls my
over production of rats, lol
0.1 brazilian rainbow boa, another rat eating monster
1.1 corns

a BAD dog is MADE not bred, support the American Pit Bull Terrier as the greatest breed of dogs on Earth!!!!!

I have Butterscotch Hypos (Ghosts). I like it when they come out of the egg with that Purple look...

Pick the nicest hatchling, as they will be more likely to be nice adults...

Adult Hypo Male

Hatchlinngs

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Jon

Cold Blooded Addiction

I think what you do with the gene is more important than what you start with. If you like the orange look, breed to high orange, high gold balls. Keep in mind that they change as they mature with some looking better than others. So there is no guarantee that the hatchling you pick is going to look the same in a year or two.
Look at the ghost cinammon pastel that Graziani just posted. That snake looks awesome, especially the head. I don't think it matters what hypo he started with. It's what he bred it to that matters. That combo works, it makes for a real nice new morph. That snake motivated me to continue pursuing the true ghost. I really liked the hypo look over the dark areas so I think a true ghost could look similar.

I love the Orange Ghost, the just shine in person.

Can't wait to add the male this year.

Good luck.

He a Super nice Butterscotch . I think he looks better every Month. My het females went allot later then the rest I should have eggs soon out of the 1st female. They would go so good with a Caramel..

Greg VanZweden
http://www.vanzwedenreptiles.com/

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Forever Trust in what we are,and nothing else Matters

He is nice Brother. But I prefer no Hemipenes! LOL!!

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http://www.jasballpythons.com./

Hey John ...It's so hard to catch that frosted look throu a lens. This is a Male that is 3 years old . What i want to do is Keep back all my female ghosts from these two big Butterscotch Het Ghost, the others just didn't make the weight this year. But they are het for Orange Ghost so i should get a mix of Orange and Butterscotch from them, Just deffernt shades of Orange an Tan..From what ive heard when you cross the Orange to a Butterscotch.

But then I'm hopeing to breed some of those Butterscotch females to a Caramel and make some "Dina-moooo Caramel Glows" or Better yet, Get a Female "Mojave/Freak" hint hint lol from you, and breed him back into them. They sure would kick out some "Out of This World Ball Pythons"

But really he usally looks like this . He's in shed here but thats how he looks Frosted. My Daughter named him Mr. Freezzz.

I had a friend pick him up for me at Daytona afew years ago,(I couldn't make it there)From Brian Sharp , So I thank you again Mr. Sharp for the best looking male Ghost I've ever seen....Next year Ive have some females John. That sure is a looker.!

Greg VanZweden

VanZweden Reptile's Where Quality & Distinction Meet
http://www.vanzwedenreptiles.com/

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Forever Trust in what we are,and nothing else Matters

When I was shopping around for a hypo - I wanted one that was from a stellar bloodline with lots of orange that would lend itself well to a honeybee project. Then someone posted a beautiful hypo from Morton Wright on the forum and I knew what line I wanted. After a bit of a wait Morton finally hatched out the (IMO) prefect hypo and I snatched him up.

As a baby:

Now as an adult:

Comparatively he has held his color well - and I couldn't be happier!

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Tosha
JET Pythons

(CJBianco explaining the origins of the BP market.)
"In the beginning Bob created the Ball Python market. And the market was without morph, and wild traits were upon the industry. And Bob said, Let there be morph, and there was morph. And Bob saw the morph, that it was good; and Bob divided the morph from the wild trait. And Bob called the morph Albino, and the wild trait Normal. And the Albino and the Heterozygous Albino were the first investment.
-- Christopher 1:1-1:5"