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These babies are the result of a son-to-mother breeding. Originally 16 eggs were laid (six infertile, and one died late in development) resulting in nine hatchlings. As you can see by the picture, six are gold, and three are hets (the three hets are in the top and bottom right corners of the pic. All babies are currently pre - shed). Considering the odds and infertile eggs I've had - not a bad ratio!
It's just a shame that the four 05' het females were borderline breeding age and did not produce for me this year. So six golden corns is all I produced this year. But I'm happy with the results. I will post more pics of them later on after they shed.
For any of you that are going: See you in Daytona - I will be at one of the "rookie" tables near the entrance!!!
Thanks for looking.

Zee

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"I am an expert on everything, but I know so little and have so much to learn!" -Carsten "Zee" Zoldy-

That is really cool. It is hard for me to tell the hets from the morphs apart in the pic but I bet that will change after a few sheds, and I look forward to seeing these guys after they mature a bit. I am gonna be at tables #373 #456 with your buddy Todd Hughes helping me. I am sure I will see you there.
Tom Stevens
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TomsSnakes.com

Thanks. Looking forward to seeing & meeting you! I will post some post shed pics soon (and hopefully I'll have this camera mastered by then, lol!)

Zee
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"I am an expert on everything, but I know so little and have so much to learn!" -Carsten "Zee" Zoldy-

I use a Sony Cybershot 4.1 megapixel myself. I find it is very easy to get good pics with it but of course some days I can not get a decent pic no matter how hard I try. Outside it really captures the colors, but since I have a school in my backyard bringing snakes outside is not always the best idea. I am sure we'll get to hang for a few at the Expo. Tom Stevens
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TomsSnakes.com

Thanks - looking forward to it!
(My cam is a sony cybershot 7.2). But it just might help me to figure out how to use it a little better!

Zee
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"I am an expert on everything, but I know so little and have so much to learn!" -Carsten "Zee" Zoldy-

Zee, show mama again, she looks awesome!
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Todd Hughes

I just popped in to see if there were any postings by you. Good timing. Didn't you produce some goldens last year or were they all hets? I'm retarded when it comes to genetics. You could say I'm genetically retarded I guess.

Yeah I said it.

Thanks...
You are not alone, lol! I had to revisit genetics myself a few years ago... Last year's pairing with her son only produced 4 good eggs out of 16 (he was a little on the small size which in all likelyhood made it difficult enough just to fertilize 4 eggs) But out of those 4, I DID get 2 golden corns and 2 hets.
And those two golden's are looking better and better with each shed.

Zee
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"I am an expert on everything, but I know so little and have so much to learn!" -Carsten "Zee" Zoldy-

How about some pix of the parents?

Thanks...
Here's an (older) pic of mom (the dad looks just like a normal corn):

Zee

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"I am an expert on everything, but I know so little and have so much to learn!" -Carsten "Zee" Zoldy-

Simply gorgeous! I am in Daytona in my mind right now!
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Todd Hughes

See ya next week bro!!!

Zee
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"I am an expert on everything, but I know so little and have so much to learn!" -Carsten "Zee" Zoldy-

Congrats, Zee!

Well, it appears that the coloration is undoubtedly genetic in nature, so you have definitely hit the jackpot there! What will be even more telling is the ratio of golden corns when breeding two presumed hets to one another. If you have 25% mutants in the mix, or thereabouts, I'd say that the simple recessivity of the gene is proven as well.

THAT would be a HUGE step toward the predictability of the project.

Once again, CONGRATS...and I can't wait to see them in person!

(Especially in my own racks!)

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Darin Chappell
Hillbilly Herps
PO Box 254
Rogersville, MO 65742

Thanks.
I WILL be breeding hets to hets next season. I tried it this year, but the (four) females appeared to be just under breeding age as none of them wanted to breed, even though I left the males in their cages for several weeks. At least two of my het males WERE definetely old enough (one of them fathered those nine babies I have this year). Next year those females will be ready to go.
See you in Daytona...?....
Zee
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"I am an expert on everything, but I know so little and have so much to learn!" -Carsten "Zee" Zoldy-

Congratulations Zee!!That's cool stuff!! Jeff

Thanks!
Are you coming to Daytona this year?

Zee
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"I am an expert on everything, but I know so little and have so much to learn!" -Carsten "Zee" Zoldy-

That is great news Zee.
Congrats are definitely in order.
Wish I was going to Daytona.
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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Thanks...
Too bad you can't make it (to Daytona) this year. Maybe next year?

Zee
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"I am an expert on everything, but I know so little and have so much to learn!" -Carsten "Zee" Zoldy-

...you'll start selling hets or even hom's of these?

Also what was the locality background of the mother and of the corn she was outcrossed to? Just trying to get a better idea of how the gene is affecting the underlying coloration. I know you mentioned before but I don't remember what the localities were.

I can't wait to start seeing some hets and hom's for your golden trait hitting the market. That mom is beautiful!

Sean.

Thanks.
The mother and the original breeder male were caught aprox. a quarter of a mile (or less), apart in Cumberland county NC. Actually I had up to four males from within a mile of where I found her and chose to breed her with the one that was closest to the spot where I found her.
Not sure yet, but I may be bringing a pair of the babies (and possibly mom) with me to Daytona this year.

Zee
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"I am an expert on everything, but I know so little and have so much to learn!" -Carsten "Zee" Zoldy-

Awesome:Hope you set record price for a "one of a kind" corn thats great but dont try to out do those Ball Python guys LOL,looks like investment quality with many investors beating down your door(I Bet) with a name to boot The Golden Corn reminds me of that old Goose story. Super Congrats Chris

Thanks!
I am so glad my son wanted a mate for his WC cornsnake that we found just a block form my house a few years ago. Otherwise I would have never went out that night late in Sep and found this golden corn!

Zee
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"I am an expert on everything, but I know so little and have so much to learn!" -Carsten "Zee" Zoldy-

Congratulations, thats awesome, do you have any pics of the two one year olds that are homo for this trait?
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South Texas Herps

I will take some pics of those two today (hopefully), and post them.

Zee
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"I am an expert on everything, but I know so little and have so much to learn!" -Carsten "Zee" Zoldy-

A HUGE CONGRATS Zee !!!!
It's really cool to find a new trait in the corns and I can't wait till they are on the market......hint hint.....LOL

I'll be sure to come by and say hey in Daytona. Will you have them there on display?

Walter

Thanks.
Yes, I will at least have on of them with me (maybe the original animal as well)

Zee
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"I am an expert on everything, but I know so little and have so much to learn!" -Carsten "Zee" Zoldy-

GREAT !!!
Can't wait to see them in person.

See ya in Daytona.

Walter

Finally some closure on something you have worked so hard on (while you weren't there) Props to the family for being there last year, you all did good! See ya at Daytona or around the Bend!
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Todd Hughes

Yes! THANKS!

Looking forward to seeing you there Todd! Big thanks to my family to keep this project going for me while I was overseas!!!

Zee
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"I am an expert on everything, but I know so little and have so much to learn!" -Carsten "Zee" Zoldy-

Way to go, Zee. Awesome potential there. See you in Daytona.

Don Soderberg
South Mountain Reptiles
www.cornsnake.NET
SMR

Thanks!
Looking forard to seeing you there! I will bring at least one of those animals with me so folks can at least see them in person.

Zee
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"I am an expert on everything, but I know so little and have so much to learn!" -Carsten "Zee" Zoldy-

Congrats!

They will be a great line of corn by themselves, but i wonder what goldens bred to ghost-lines or goldens bred to carmel would be like.

Let us know mor of your interesting project!

/Niklas Ekestam
Sweden

Thanks. Yes the possibilities are almost endless, lol!

Zee
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"I am an expert on everything, but I know so little and have so much to learn!" -Carsten "Zee" Zoldy-

WOW....what absolutely BEAUTIFUL snakes. You looking to adopt out any? I would provide a great and HAPPY home!