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And a mouse eater. I would guess this is the best forum to post one of these.

Very calm snake.

What is it?

That is a long-nosed snake. Very nice! Thanks for sharing.
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"Relax, Don't Worry, Have a Homebrew!" Charlie Papazian

Oh that's funny!

When i first saw your pic i thought it was a long nosed snake.. but, i didn't know they got that large.. They used to be available when i was a kid, but, they rarely lived so i guess i never saw a live adult.

Nice "rare" snake!

~ mike

It looks like a Western Longnosed snake. I used to love finding those int he wild. Ive heard there picky eatters. I love the tri colors but also liked finding the black and white ones too. heres a pic of a pair i found in 05

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3.4.2 eggs leopard geckos
1.2.8 eggs Pictus Geckos
2.6.1 eggs Western banded geckos
1.1.0 Desert Rosy boas
1.0.0 Nelson milk snake (het albino)
1.1.0 Mexican Black King Snake

Your right. He was recently wild caught in Arizona. At least that is what I was told. Kind of suprisingly, he doesn't have a single scar, i mean literaly flawless. And he ate a fuzzy right in front of me the day I brought him home from a show. I had always thought they were difficult captives but this guy, at least so far, seems well suited for captivity.

LOL!

I don't know about Long Nosed hatchlings but western Glossy snakes (not Texas) are pinky eaters from the get go. Its just the w/c that are hard to get feeding on mice. I wonder if its the same with Long noce. Probably not however.

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"Yeah ya told me, and ya wrote it down too. But how the hell am I supposed to remember!"

I could never get long nose snakes to eat. Using any method, or any type of prey. I had four of them to work with. I couldn't even get them to eat lizards.

Glossies on the other hand, do wonders for me. Which is why I'm trying to get involved with Don Shores' albino project.
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Mike
KingPin Reptiles Inc.
www.kingpinreptiles.com
^ Updated 7/21

I heard that Dons Gloosy are from Texas though and they are hard to get on pinkies.

This year there was a Glossy found in Calif. I wish I could get in one some of those babies when they are avaialbe. IMO Glossy , when captive bred, are a lot like cornsnakes. They eat well and are a hardy captive. All we need is for a couple more reccessive traits* to show up and viola' , well have a whole new spp that breeders will want to work with.

* note because people are not breeding sibling to sibling Glossy is why we don't have an array of recessive traits in Glossys. If people would start breeding their wildcaughts and then breeding the babies back together we will have recessive traits galore. I beleive the recccessive traits don't fair as well in the wild pops as cornsnakes. A glossy habitat is less condusive for a recessive trait to grow and suvive than a habita of a cornsnake. They live in a much harsher environment (and one filled with predators with easy pickins). In the desert a nockturnal amel will stand out like a beacon of light. LOL!

nobody is working with captive born glossys so we will not see much until some does decide to start breeding sib to sib.
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"Yeah ya told me, and ya wrote it down too. But how the hell am I supposed to remember!"

Well.
Don has several snakes he's working with... Last time I talked to him I think he said he has 1.1 albinos and 2.5 hets, or numbers similar to those. They're just not breeding for him.
I've only worked with TX Glossies.
And I think the younger ones, especially, switch over to scented mice, and then unscented mice, with ease.
So when Don hatches out some babies I'll probably be working with a couple.
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Mike
KingPin Reptiles Inc.
www.kingpinreptiles.com
^ Updated 7/21

I've had good luck with both Texas glossies and even Texas longnose-much more so with glossies lol. But if you try 3 or 4 longnose, usually at least a couple will accept rodents-especially if they were collected in South texas, as opposed to the Trans-Pecos.

Here's a longnose from Boy Scout Rd. in the Davis Mountains.....They really are one of my favorite snakes and very underrated. Their time will come.

Brad Chambers

I think you hit the nail on the head. A lot of these feeding longnoses and Glossys depends on the locale they came from.

When people get into these this info will become quite important and more widespread.
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"Yeah ya told me, and ya wrote it down too. But how the hell am I supposed to remember!"

That is so wild you guys are writing about this. I love Glossies. I keep a couple of WC Mojave (A.e. candida)females, and will probably be out looking for a male tonight. I would love to try and breed these snakes. Very mellow, and all the one's I've worked with, I've gotten on rodents w/ relatively minimal headaches.

reako45

They are a hoot. Try mixing locales a bit as that what I also did and had good luck with the neonates feeding. I crossed the ones from Borrego and the palm springs area as well as both to each other..
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"Yeah ya told me, and ya wrote it down too. But how the hell am I supposed to remember!"

The TX Longnoses hatchlings are a little easier to get on pinkies/mice than the Western Longnoses. Alot of the B/W Western Longnoses hatchlings were too small after hatching to even take pinkies. You can start by feeding them pinkie parts or small lizards. I have tricked sub adult and ltc adult W. Longnoses into eating mice. Some took to it totally and others that eventually started taking mice seem to forget after bringing them up from brumation the following season and I would have to start over the scenting process. Kind of like sometimes whats happens with Eastern Hognoses who are taking mice and then after they come out of brumation just sem to prefer toad. The TX longnoses from my experience seem to love rodents and once they are hooked they dont come off DAve

These took pinks right off the get go too!

Ya but hatchling nighsnakes are to small to take pinks. Its like working with scarlets.
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"Yeah ya told me, and ya wrote it down too. But how the hell am I supposed to remember!"

I like 'em, they are great as adults, a little difficult to work with as juvies, but I bet hatchlings could/would start out on pinks. I have several adults from south and west Texas. Yours is a pretty big 'un and a good looker too!
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Todd Hughes

Great pic, Don. Longnose are still on my list to see in the wild.

reako45