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wh00h0069 Aug 11, 2007 12:20 PM

Do you use the cooling method? I have read most people start cooling down their adults in november/december, and start putting their males with females at the same time. I have also read that some people breed year round. I have 11 normal females and 2 pastel males and 1 spider male big enough to breed now. Could I start intoducing the males into the females cages now? Should I wait until December? Also, when I do eventually put the males into the females cages, should I take out the females hides? Thanks in advance for all your help.

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RatliffReptiles Aug 11, 2007 12:47 PM

Highly successful breeders will cool their adults to begin the breeding cycle. You would be wise to learn to palpate your females for maturing follicles. When a female begins to build follicles that is the time to introduce your male/s. Search the forums here. You will find all the information you need.

When someone says they breed their snakes year round they do not mean their males physically breed 12 months out of the year. They have different groups that cycle in and out year round. Ambient tempertaures are the main trigger for beginning a breeding cycle. Masses in excess of 1500g is usually the sweet spot for female mass unless the female is long and thin. The female should look robust but not obese or thin.
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wh00h0069 Aug 11, 2007 12:54 PM

Thank you very much for clearing that up for me. That was very helpful. All 11 of my females are between 1500 and 2000 grams. What do maturing follicles feel like? What makes them start producing the follicles? Thanks.

RatliffReptiles Aug 11, 2007 01:05 PM
wh00h0069 Aug 11, 2007 01:07 PM

Great. Thanks.

kinderman Aug 11, 2007 04:06 PM

I just finished my first shot at breeding. Truthfully, I was a little "freaked out" by the process. I read and talked with as many people as I could in order to gather information. Most I spoke with on the phone said it's not really that hard. Most of what I read in books or the internet began with "There is no one way to set up your breeding, this is just way way we do it." They then set out a very specific detailed sequence of timed, measured, actions that implied (to me at least) that "there is" sort of only one successful method -- the one they use. LOL.

So now I am even more apprehensive!!! I have only been in this interesting/addictive world of balls since January so I don't even know what I don't know, and probably know just enough to get in trouble. I have 2 males I'm trying to prove-out, so why not breed in May? Right? Let's find out just how easy it might be? I didn't cool any of my snakes formore than a couple off days if at all. I did turn off their heat at night and their heat during the day was around 85. Ambiant temps day 78-85 night 72-80. I had fans on during the day, but have not had to use air conditioning this spring and summer AT ALL. I didn't do anything too exactly. Can you tell? Irresponsibility through ignorence LOL.

At the end of three weeks 9 of 10 females were gravid for certain. Most with only 1 or 2 locks. The males had 4-5 days on and 2-3 days off after eating. The tenth female has taken I think? I missed her ovulation and she may be one of those who don't show. Beginners luck? I hope not. Because this really does seem easy after all that fretting!!! What I KNOW I did right was use mature snakes!!! My girls were between 1600-2700 grams and my 2 boys were 05's around 1200 grams. Almost all of them ate a small rat every week, and continue to do so - boys too. The topper is my first cluth ever!!! -- dropped July 30th from one of my big girls --10 fluffy eggs --not a slug in the bunch!!! I live in California, so our May - July weather is mild compared to most parts of the country. I'm guessing that may also be a factor when considering late spring breeding. I hope to have close to this success this fall when our whether is a little cooler. At least I don't have freezing temps to navigate. I know I will be doing my anti-scientific lick your finger method next spring. I have written down as much as I could remember about what, how and when I did things. I am a newbie, but not short-sighted.

My advice to anyone new to breeding if anyone were to ask a TOTAL NOVICE with what is very little -albeit successful experience, is to do your research, speak with those who know and have had repeated success, and if you hear the same info from three sources you might want to try it that way -- or you could just take a deep breath and put the men with the women and let nature take its course!!! Grip it and rip it!! Afterall, when you get right down too it, we are all animals (including our snakes) and more likely than not -- nature will call!! Thanks to those who have helped me and continue to do so -- you know who you are. I try not to name drop these days. LOL There really is so much to learn, and most of it comes from doing. Experience cannot be given -- it must be earned. For whatever it is worth, 90% of the people I have dealt with over the last 8 months have been TERRIFIC!!!

Happy, successful, breeding to everyone!!

wh00h0069 Aug 11, 2007 04:39 PM

Great. Thanks for the very much for the reply. I will definately consider that. And congrats on you year!

BuzzardBall Aug 11, 2007 11:09 PM

I start cycling at Halloween, introducing at Thanksgiving and continue cycling until mid-Jan! I always intro females into the males domain!

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